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Offline IMXLR8N

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« on: June 05, 2007, 10:14:45 PM »
So, I posted this a bit soon and realized that there was an actual forum for this sort of rant, oops.

I'm somewhat new to the game (really new actually considering how long most of you have been playing) but I have a big background in WWII aircraft as my father sells and collects WWII aircraft surplus for a living. So, we've been talking about the game and the planes offered and what they don't offer. I know this is a game, and it'd be extremely difficult, if not completely impossible (atleast impractical) to include every aircraft from the era. There were more models and variations of aircraft during this war than any other, probably why it holds such allure and mystique.

So, to my point. What, out of the following list would you guys like to see in the game? Heck, I'd even like to see what everyone else would really like to see. Here is a short list that I've compiled that I wish we could fly.

Dornier Do 335 "Arrow": Not a highly produced aircraft, only 38 built with a very limited service history and , but cool nonetheless. I think it'd make a great fighter/bomber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_335

F8F Bearcat: According to the In Action book, on 16 August, 1945, the USS Langley was steaming across the Pacific, her decks loaded with F8F-1 Bearcats, when news that WWII had ended. So it didn't actually see combat, but I feel strongly that this would be a dominant fighter with a stellar physical perfomance sheet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F8F

F7F Tigercat: This is a really neat plane and goes to show how much the war advanced aircraft technology in such a short time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F7F

I guess my justification for wishing we had these non-combat aircraft is on the basis of the existance of the AR234, although it did see combat, it was very limited. So I'd hope that if Christmas was to come early some year, that HTC would fudge a bit and allow these planes.

Also, what about night fighters and actual night time on the maps? Most of the planes are already there, A-20=P-70, Ju-88, P-38L=P-38M, Mosquito. And... what about adding a P-61? I'm sure that creating an entire night map would be a serious pain in the arse along with adding some sort of radar to the aircraft, but I figure, if you're gonna dream, dream big no?

If anything, I think it'd be far better to do a poll for planes to have us ultimately vote on instead of insulting us with suggesting the addition of such pathetic aircraft as the P-39.

Just my two cents, I'm sure I'll get flamed for it, but I'm sure it'll make you feel better when you shoot me down :)

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM »
Ta152 and Me163 were much more limited than the Ar234.  It actually saw a fair amount of use.

The problem with adding things like those is that they open a rather large and unpleasant can of worms, namely the "I want my almost made it superplane too!" endless whines.  I can list a lot of them without looking anything up in a book or even on google.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 10:25:21 PM »
While very interesting, I highly doubt we will see any of those listed short of spending some serious cash on Scotch for a bribe to Hitech.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 10:47:02 PM »
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While very interesting, I highly doubt we will see any of those listed short of spending some serious cash on Scotch for a bribe to Hitech.


Lets get a pool together then and make a Costco run!!!!! :D
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 10:48:00 PM »
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Lets get a pool together than and make a Costco run!!!!! :D


LOL, I do not believe that we will find that Scotch he likes at Costco...  ;)
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2007, 10:50:46 PM »
Well... it doesn't hurt to dream big no? Heck, you never know, Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny could show up at my front door and tell me I got my planes on AH...

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2007, 11:12:32 PM »
Don't forget that there's also about a dozen or more vastly needed aircraft that aren't in the game yet.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2007, 11:22:31 PM »
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Don't forget that there's also about a dozen or more vastly needed aircraft that aren't in the game yet.


Such as? I'd like to hear your opinion.

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2007, 11:37:53 PM »
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Such as? I'd like to hear your opinion.


Well, I'll toss mine at you:

G4M2
Ki-43-II
Wellington B.Mk III
Ju188A-2
D4Y1
B6N2
I-16-24
Pe-2
P-39
LaGG-3
Yak-1
Il-4
Yak-7
MiG-3
SB2C
Firefly Mk I
Ki-44
N1K1-J
J2M3
Ki-45
SB-2
B-239
He177A-5
B-29A
He111
A-26
Do-17
P-61B
B7A2
Ki-49
P1Y1
H8K2
PBY
Sunderland
D-520

And on and on and on, all of which are more needed that those you listed.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 12:00:59 AM »
Ok, so I was only off by 30 planes or so.  But what Karnak said.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2007, 12:04:19 AM »
I had put a P-61 on there, if you had read my section about night fighters.

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2007, 12:09:49 AM »
But most of your suggestions were airplanes which had absolutely no impact on the war, and pretty much never showed their face in combat.

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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2007, 12:14:31 AM »
As I recall, I did put that the planes had little impact, if no impact on the war. Now we're not fighting the war all over again. The 262 didn't turn the tide for the Germans but we have it.

I'm just saying planes that would be fun or have an advantage in the game. I'm not here to spark a super heated debate, I just wanted to know what other people would like to have if they could have their dream aircraft.

Hell, I'd even like to see a Pershing Tank. Talk about a Tiger Killer. If I remember correctly, there were more of those than the Firefly.

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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2007, 12:16:44 AM »
ithink we need a few a/c desp none more:

for scenarios:
he111
g4m betty
 maybe another italian fighter or two(g2 series)
and definatly the oscar
all other catagories are well represented :)

edit: and a private gloster meteor for me plz;)
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2007, 01:32:13 AM »
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If I remember correctly, there were more of those than the Firefly.

You either remember incorrectly or never knew.  There were far, far, far more Firefly Vcs during WWII than there were Pershings and it was in combat long before the Pershing.

I may remember this wrong, but I think I saw some numbers that put the Firefly's 17lb gun as having the best penetration of any tank gun in WWII.
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