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Offline NHawk

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« on: June 28, 2007, 06:04:13 AM »
Just some advice...

1: Treat your fellow pilots with respect. Nothing will sour a day or evening of AH faster than some braindead, foul mouthed person, who has an infantile need to demonstrate and assert his lack of class and education. Some players, mostly younger new players (newbies), think this kind of interaction is 'cool' and believe that they are receiving positive attention because of their aggressive, obnoxious behavior. In fact, they are seriously jepardizing their future success in the game by alienating more experienced players who will simply ignore them on the radio and refuse entrance into a quality Squadron, regardless of their skill. (Not to mention they make excellent targets due to their constant mindless chatter and its inherent weakness, a lack of Situational Awareness)

1A: In an expanded thought, always try to remember the following; due to Aces High's inevitable combative and conflictive nature, and the degree of seriousness which some people apply to it, it is not unusual for tempers to flare. This sometimes manifests itself in angry, mean spirited, radio confrontations consisting of unacceptable language. If you feel the need to get involved in one of these...DON'T! The rest of us have better things to do than listen to alot of raw four letter whining. If it simply won't go away, take it into a more private setting or to settle it, fight a 1 on 1 duel in the DA. Talk it out via email. Anything, just keep it off the radio in the arenas! Nobody wins in these useless arguments and everybody looses. Final thought on this. If one individual is constantly irritating others with TOS (Terms of Service) violations or other unacceptable conduct, he will soon be reported to HTC (who quietly cruise the arenas regularly anyway) and can be banned from AH. No joke. No refund either.

2: AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up. Learn the strategic aspects of the game. Just flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring after a while. Know who controls what base or airfield. Keep track of what resources have been hit or are still functioning at any base or zone in your immediate operating area. Look at the maps and try to understand why taking and holding a certain base is beneficial or even critical in some instances and less so in others. There is alot involved if you take the time to look for it and understand it. It will increase your enjoyment of the game tremendously.

3: Keep your eye on the radio messages. They serve two primary functions. First and foremost, they keep you informed of what is currently happening in the arena. Concentrations of friends or enemies, bases that are currently under attack or that are operational or nonoperational, approximate locations of incoming targets, what needs to be destroyed at a certain base, etc. The second reason for a new player to pay attention to his radio, is to get a sense of who is an experienced player and who isn't. Experienced, well grounded players will normally be very willing to help you with questions you may have and won't reply with "try Alt-F4". The difference between just asking anyone and asking an experienced player is that you'll probably get the right answer first time. Not much point in a newbie asking a newbie. There is a big down side to watching your radio, however. It means you aren't watching the sky around you, and that boys and girls, is deadly. Situational awareness is the key to survival in AH and survival is the key to success. At first, try to find a comfortable balance between learning and playing AH. After a while, you'll be able to do both without neglecting either.
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2007, 07:10:09 AM »
Good points fella, being new to the game (tho trying to get better rapidly so I can help and not be a hindrance). Flew last night in the LW orange, had a good time, lots of fights, lots of a/c calling and tracking......all the guys who were in the area where I was hindering everything were great....made it even more enjoyable.

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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2007, 07:45:32 AM »
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2: AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up.


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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2007, 08:58:05 AM »
1.  No dispute.  Though I just use .squelch if somebody really bugs me.

1A.  No dispute.  Again (for me) I just use .squelch if somebody bugs me though.

2.  Can't agree with you on this one.  While that may be what you prefer in the game, each player defines what they enjoy.  Telling newbies this will increase their enjoyment of the game is a bit closed-minded to me.  Sometimes doing something 'pointless' is the whole point.  I do meaningful things all day at work and don't need a game to become another responsibility.  AH is an escape - a game even.  There are times I just want to shoot red guys for the sake of shooting red guys and say screw strategy.  Sometimes playing the strat game can be fun.  I say to the newbies, try all aspects, determine what you enjoy and have fun doing what you like in the game.  Oh, and regardless of whether you prefer to be a furballer or strat guy, somebody's gonna tell you you're playing the game wrong and ruining their fun, you're not a team player, do this, do that, blah blah blah...

3.  No dispute.  But I will respond with 'Try ALT-F4' everytime somebody asks for the 'Cheat Codes'  :D   In my opinion, it's quite justifiable for that type of request.

The bottom line to my suggestion here - have fun. :aok

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2007, 09:08:41 AM »
After point A and A1, this is nothing more but another play my way thread
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2007, 09:15:28 AM »
I work nights and go on AH during the day, well Monday and Tuesday I took vacation to work around the house and flew AH at night.
Don't know if it was a coincidence or not but I found the time spent at
night was more enjoyable than the day, there was some of the crap that
shows upon Ch 200, but far less than I see during the day, but most was
friendly banner, even got some advice from opposing players. Made for the
best time I've had on AH to date.
Just my 2 cents.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2007, 09:19:22 AM »
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Just some advice...try "Alt-F4".  



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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2007, 09:24:52 AM »
Good note NHawk.  I agree with everything you said.  I enjoy strategy of games and I am in it for the enjoyment of taking bases and not running up my rating.  I am team oriented and like the aspect of being in a Squad that wants to do something and cares when we win or lose bases.

Love to see a squad of Jugs.....pillowy soft....oops wrong ones.

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 09:32:12 AM »
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After point A and A1, this is nothing more but another play my way thread



Yep, but even before that its a "be nice to people even when they arent nice to you" tree hugger thread.


1. I pay my $16.03 you dont like how I treat you or others to bad.

1a. I dont cuss on any VOX other then squad. If they are cussing hit alt+r if not squelch.

2. I pay my $16.03 and I love to mix it up in fighters I hardly ever help with base capure because it just ruins the fight.

3. During night time I will help noobs out in the MA because no one is in the MA, but when there are people in there during the daytime my four answers to every noob question is:

a. Alt+F4
b. Ctrl+Tab+Esc
c. Goto the TA
d. STFU n00b
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 12:30:23 PM »
Rule #1:  Drink alcohol.
Rule #B:  Shoot chutes.
3rd Rule: See Rule #1.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 02:15:19 PM »
1. Respect is something that should be earned. Of course, when I started doing this, the club was a little exclusive. Most noobs were hazed until they had "earned their spurs" or they were simply ignored. Today, it's a kinder, gentler virtual world. :)

1A. Sometimes, the HATE can be quite entertaining. Of course, with noobs, it can quickly get out of hand.

2. The game is an air combat simulation with superfluous activities that are provided to enhance the air combat experience.

3. While I am usually willing to assist anyone that asks, I am not willing to be a substitute for the AH helpfiles. I spent years doing that for Kesmai (on their dime), I won't spend my leisure time doing it here. For those that can't be bothered with a little reading....RTFM NOOB!.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 02:20:06 PM »
What he said ^.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2007, 04:32:33 PM »
Nice try NHawk, but as you can see from most of the replies, playing with respect for other players at times would be better addressed to some of the "experienced players".

I don't see where NHawk said you HAD to play one way or the other, but more to the point, suggested that learning the other aspects of the game might make the game more enjoyable.

NoBaddy:
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The game is an air combat simulation with superfluous activities that are provided to enhance the air combat experience.

Here is an eye opener for ya.
HTC:
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Aces High II is a massive multi-player online combat simulation centered around the World War II air-war.
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Welcome to the Internet's Premier WWII Combat Experience!
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Engage in Air, Land or Sea Combat.


Centered around the air-war.  But designed for more than that.  With out the other apsects of AHII you might as well go play CFS2.  The most boring "Fighter Simulation" available.  You start in your plane, fly into the masses, and when you get shot down, you respawn on the edge of the furball.  Wow, what fun.  Something else you might consider, that without all those other aspects of the game, you might just find yourself furballing with yourself.  The game has appeal to so many because it has such a broad base.

NHawk.  Good post.  To bad it falls on so many deaf ears.

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2007, 04:41:39 PM »
Suggest? He plainly states that the types of gameplay he doesn't care for are pointless, and goes on to declare that newer players will enjoy the game more if they do what he tells them.

We're not deaf, but we're not stupid either, which is why the response to his orders is less than enthusiastic.

Anyone who has to be told how to have fun in a game probably should spend their money elsewhere.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2007, 04:41:59 PM »
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Originally posted by NHawk
Just some advice...

1: Treat your fellow pilots with respect. Nothing will sour a day or evening of AH faster than some braindead, foul mouthed person, who has an infantile need to demonstrate and assert his lack of class and education. Some players, mostly younger new players (newbies), think this kind of interaction is 'cool' and believe that they are receiving positive attention because of their aggressive, obnoxious behavior. In fact, they are seriously jepardizing their future success in the game by alienating more experienced players who will simply ignore them on the radio and refuse entrance into a quality Squadron, regardless of their skill. (Not to mention they make excellent targets due to their constant mindless chatter and its inherent weakness, a lack of Situational Awareness)ok...on this one, i hear MANY more older more experienced pilots.......2 come to mind.......don't wanna name em, but think of the german STOL plane... the feisler ______.
the other one i haven't seen in a LONG time....but what ya do to ur kid when he backtalks ya? ya ____ him .:D

1A: In an expanded thought, always try to remember the following; due to Aces High's inevitable combative and conflictive nature, and the degree of seriousness which some people apply to it, it is not unusual for tempers to flare. This sometimes manifests itself in angry, mean spirited, radio confrontations consisting of unacceptable language. If you feel the need to get involved in one of these...DON'T! The rest of us have better things to do than listen to alot of raw four letter whining. If it simply won't go away, take it into a more private setting or to settle it, fight a 1 on 1 duel in the DA. Talk it out via email. Anything, just keep it off the radio in the arenas! Nobody wins in these useless arguments and everybody looses. Final thought on this. If one individual is constantly irritating others with TOS (Terms of Service) violations or other unacceptable conduct, he will soon be reported to HTC (who quietly cruise the arenas regularly anyway) and can be banned from AH. No joke. No refund either. all, including muyself are guilty of this one....i now simply go cool off now......no use yelling at a guy 3,000 miles away who's just drinkin a beer and laughin at me for it!!:lol

2: AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up. Learn the strategic aspects of the game. Just flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring after a while. Know who controls what base or airfield. Keep track of what resources have been hit or are still functioning at any base or zone in your immediate operating area. Look at the maps and try to understand why taking and holding a certain base is beneficial or even critical in some instances and less so in others. There is alot involved if you take the time to look for it and understand it. It will increase your enjoyment of the game tremendously.

those of us that like to do this get called mean names like toolshedders, and milkrunners.......or worst of all......LANDGRABBERS:O

3: Keep your eye on the radio messages. They serve two primary functions. First and foremost, they keep you informed of what is currently happening in the arena. Concentrations of friends or enemies, bases that are currently under attack or that are operational or nonoperational, approximate locations of incoming targets, what needs to be destroyed at a certain base, etc. The second reason for a new player to pay attention to his radio, is to get a sense of who is an experienced player and who isn't. Experienced, well grounded players will normally be very willing to help you with questions you may have and won't reply with "try Alt-F4". The difference between just asking anyone and asking an experienced player is that you'll probably get the right answer first time. Not much point in a newbie asking a newbie. There is a big down side to watching your radio, however. It means you aren't watching the sky around you, and that boys and girls, is deadly. Situational awareness is the key to survival in AH and survival is the key to success. At first, try to find a comfortable balance between learning and playing AH. After a while, you'll be able to do both without neglecting either.
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