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Offline DREDIOCK

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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2007, 09:09:24 PM »
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Been really busy!

Fantastic! Hey, you had a 50/50 chance! heh.
Glad you chose wisely.
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In hindsight it was more like 80-20.
I can see that now. Guess I saw it then too

I coulda really made a putz of myself
One of those rare moments where the head over rules the heart lol

Funny how things play out sometimes

Anyway. Good to see you posting again
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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2007, 09:16:47 PM »
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Here is the owner of the WTC buildings, Larry Silverstein, describing what took place. His spokeswomen said he was speaking of the firefighters, "pull the firefighters", but it seems like he said "it" not "them". Of course "it" is open to interpretation. Shucks.


Here is a better one
He was referring to Building 7. Not the twin towers

"pelted by debri when the north tower collapsed. 7 burned  into late afternoon. Allowing occuants to evacuate to safety"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1340351950774479027&q=wtc+7+pulled&total=198&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2007, 09:26:36 PM »
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Here is a better one
He was referring to Building 7. Not the twin towers

"pelted by debri when the north tower collapsed. 7 burned  into late afternoon. Allowing occuants to evacuate to safety"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1340351950774479027&q=wtc+7+pulled&total=198&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Um, yes. (see title of thread):aok
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2007, 09:57:09 PM »
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Um, yes. (see title of thread):aok


LMAO

Well I never claimed to be master of the obvious :aok
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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2007, 10:38:46 PM »
Conspiracies, whether real or imagined, are usually based on fact.

So conspire this.

1986. Lybian waters. USS America.

Defining the 20 NM limit.

French EMbassy first target hit during raid.

WHY.




I know exactly why :lol
Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2007, 12:39:27 AM »
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Conspiracies, whether real or imagined, are usually based on fact.

So conspire this.

1986. Lybian waters. USS America.

Defining the 20 NM limit.

French EMbassy first target hit during raid.

WHY.




I know exactly why :lol


Incorrect.
Legends usaully have some basis in fact

you have your quotes wrong even

Must be a conspiracy LOL
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« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2007, 01:03:55 AM »
You dont need these things to have a conspiracy theory:

Proof.
Common Sense.

And these things to help you along:

The ability to ignore any evidence that doesnt fit your theory.
A beleif that you are "special" and are one of an "elite few" who sees the truth.

Thats all you need. In other words, if you see the world through the eyes of a child, conspiracy theories are probably your thing...

Oh I forgot, being drunk is not a detriment, and can actually help your theory along in many cases.
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« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2007, 01:06:05 AM »
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And alot of people are dying everyday due to disinformation.
Really?  Name one.
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« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2007, 01:07:29 AM »
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Originally posted by 4deck
Conspiracies, whether real or imagined, are usually based on fact.

So conspire this.

1986. Lybian waters. USS America.

Defining the 20 NM limit.

French EMbassy first target hit during raid.

WHY.




I know exactly why :lol
Yeah, so do I.  A bomb hit the wrong target.
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« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2007, 01:11:46 AM »
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Why is it that the conspiracy theorists can't seem to find one single participant to verify even one part of their story?


In some of the video's that Citabria has linked to.....when they talk about the buildings being demolished instead of just falling because of severe structural damage, they actually have tape of folks that say they heard explosions.

Although in one, they claim the collapse started at the very top, then show a view of the Tower collapsing but you can't see if the collapse started at the top floor. In an entirely different video, you get to see the same Tower collapse and the collapse begins at the damaged floors with the floors above falling together.

While some of what they say is interesting, and some is actually compelling....they don't account for the fact that bin-Laden admitted to the entire plot, or just plain ignore it.
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« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2007, 01:12:09 AM »
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however building 7 seems like a textbook demo job and the owner of the building seems to have accidentally addmited to blowing up the building deliberately in a controlled demolition on the same afternoon that the towers were hit.
I saw the video on this, he says that there were so many deaths already that he "pulled" the firefighters out that were trying to save the building.  After the twin towers went down it seems like a reasonable action on his part.  People are trying to spin it as if he meant "pull" the building down.  Kinda stuoopid that a guy who had the ability to plan and conduct a building demolition on such short notice would "accidentally" admit it.
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« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2007, 01:13:11 AM »
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Here is the owner of the WTC buildings, Larry Silverstein, describing what took place. His spokeswomen said he was speaking of the firefighters, "pull the firefighters", but it seems like he said "it" not "them". Of course "it" is open to interpretation. Shucks.


Sure, he said "pull it"
...and that means?
Like I said, where are the participants of the actual event?
Where's the fire commander? He shouldn't be hard to locate.
He's not being quoted by the conspiracy theory folks because he didn't give any order to demolish the building.
"Pull it" can mean "pull the mission, get your men out of there."
"It" = "mission"
More plausible than "them", no?
But that's just not good enough for the conspiracy folks. :noid
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« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2007, 01:23:19 AM »
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Originally posted by 4deck
Conspiracies, whether real or imagined, are usually based on fact.

So conspire this.

1986. Lybian waters. USS America.

Defining the 20 NM limit.

French EMbassy first target hit during raid.

WHY.




I know exactly why :lol


So if a conspiracy is imagined, how can it be based on "fact"?  


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I saw the video on this, he says that there were so many deaths already that he "pulled" the firefighters out that were trying to save the building.  After the twin towers went down it seems like a reasonable action on his part.  People are trying to spin it as if he meant "pull" the building down.  Kinda stuoopid that a guy who had the ability to plan and conduct a building demolition on such short notice would "accidentally" admit it.


Don't you know?
He's supposed to not be human. He's supposed to use perfect English even in trying times. After all seeing your own people murdered from our Nation's worst terror attack shouldn't really affect us.
Yeah, he was part of this grand conspiracy of murdering our own for the insurance payoff for his damaged building. The profits must of been HUGE!
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« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2007, 07:13:48 AM »
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wow I've known you a long time eagler.
thanks for the insult. always thought fondly of you every time I fought with and against ya online and always said hello when I saw ya.


and in game will continue, it'll just be easier dying to you now after seeing this thread :)

seriously, you can spin everything & anything into some deep dark secret. It usually does nothing but cloud the simple truth while getting the 4deck types all worked up.
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