Gotta admire ol' dubya

[Hawco]

Was watching the News yesterday, Now I'm no Republican or anything like that, but tell you what, after listening to him, that guy has a pair.
He was commenting on the Iraq situation and he said something along the lines of "If the Commanders on the ground tell me we need less troops as the situation warrants it then I'll listen, but not a bunch of polsters telling me to pull troops out"
We all have our views on the President, but after that, he's gone up in my book, kudos to him and well done for not taking any nonsense.

[Sandman]

Stay the course!

[Saxman]

And yet the requests for improved body and vehicle armor are mired in enough red tape to circle the globe about 20 times leading to family members of soldiers in the combat zone to turn to independent suppliers to purchase the equipment THEMSELVES.

Way to listen to the troops!

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by Sandman
Stay the course!

run like a bunch of sissies and leave the area for genocide!


 

[Charon]

"If the Commanders on the ground tell me we need less troops as the situation warrants it then I'll listen, but not a bunch of polsters telling me to pull troops out"

What about when the commanders told the administration (Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz at the time) that they needed far more troops for the Invasion and aftermath and General Shinseki got canned. With that environment, I imagine the commanders tell the administration exactly what the administration wants to hear.

Charon

[john9001]

Originally posted by Saxman
And yet the requests for improved body and vehicle armor are mired in enough red tape to circle the globe about 20 times leading to family members of soldiers in the combat zone to turn to independent suppliers to purchase the equipment THEMSELVES.

Way to listen to the troops!

the Humvee was not designed as a armored vehicle and only combat troops were issued body armor due to miltary budget cuts from the democrats under clinton. bush corrected that situation.

[Hawco]

Originally posted by Charon
What about when the commanders told the administration (Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz at the time) that they needed far more troops for the Invasion and aftermath and General Shinseki got canned. With that environment, I imagine the commanders tell the administration exactly what the administration wants to hear.

Charon

Hey ! don't shoot the messenger here dude! I'm just saying how I thought it was admirable that he gave it right back to the press and didn't take any nonsense- Good for him in my book.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by john9001
the Humvee was not designed as a armored vehicle and only combat troops were issued body armor due to miltary budget cuts from the democrats under clinton. bush corrected that situation.

Wasn't that a Republican House and Senate while Clinton was in office?

gotta love revisionist history

[rpm]

Originally posted by john9001
...only combat troops were issued body armor due to miltary budget cuts from the democrats under clinton. bush corrected that situation.

My God what a deluded world you live in.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Guppy35
Wasn't that a Republican House and Senate while Clinton was in office?

gotta love revisionist history

for 3/4 of his two terms, yes.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Saxman
And yet the requests for improved body and vehicle armor are mired in enough red tape to circle the globe about 20 times leading to family members of soldiers in the combat zone to turn to independent suppliers to purchase the equipment THEMSELVES.

Way to listen to the troops!

You go to war with the army you have. Not the one you wish you had.

[Yeager]

I cant find anything about him to admire.  Not any more.

[Shuckins]

The whopping big budget cuts for the military began in 1993, when the Dems controlled the House.  These cuts were envisioned by many as the fruits of victory in the Cold War.  

Defense spending as a share of GDP for the year 2006 is only 4%, which is not very far above the peacetime average of 3%.  To put that in perspective, look at the graph below of military spending as a percentage of GDP from WW II until the present.

http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/102006chart.gif


You can barely tell that there is a war on, even though military spending has increased by 40% since January of 2001, when George Bush took office.  Notice also that the low point for military budget spending came during the years of the Clinton administration.

[eagl]

Shuckins,

But... but... but... the war is costing BILLYUNS and BILLYUNS!!!!111one



The war is why social security is bankrupt and why Boosh is steeling medications from senior citizens!  We're spending so much more on the war, that we can't even afford enough troops to fight the war!!!!111one

That's what "they" say, right?  How can those statistics be true if the country is being bankrupted by the war and we can't afford enough troops and equipment to avoid excessively straining military personnel and destroying readiness?

It couldn't possibly be that the military budget is near historical lows compared to other spending, could it?  If that were true, then everyone saying how the war is a financial disaster would be a lying hypocrite?  Say it isn't so!!!!!111oen

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Yeager
I cant find anything about him to admire.  Not any more.

I'm kinda wondering what there was to begin with.