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Offline redman555

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2007, 11:06:07 AM »
Best person to ask is prolly ROCKY of the knights.... that man is one of the best P-38 piolets i have ever seen, he will land 5+ kills in that thing almost every time

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Offline Guppy35

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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2007, 11:41:11 AM »
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Best person to ask is prolly ROCKY of the knights.... that man is one of the best P-38 piolets i have ever seen, he will land 5+ kills in that thing almost every time

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We're still working on ROCKY to come down a bit more though :)
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Offline Cobra44

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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2007, 10:11:19 PM »
My first instinct in that situation would be to do a climbing left turn and then roll back over and do a Split-S.(the P-51 would probably over shoot me.) I think that situation would be survivable,you would just have to use his E against him.

                     
   
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2007, 11:51:10 PM »
If someone is on your tail, always turn towards them to give them the worst possible shooting solution.  When I know someone is going to get a shot on me, I like to force them to pull negative g's and turn.  The P38 should be able to outturn a P-51, so I would have forced him into a horizontal turning fight.  The Mustangs stall speed is much higher than the 38s, plus it has all that torque to contend with.  All you really need is a snapshot to put the P-51 out of action.
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Offline 64kills

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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2007, 10:39:58 AM »
never stop flying 38L
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2007, 12:16:26 PM »
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never stop flying 38L



And who would you know?  Do you even play in the MA or just another squeaker freeloader?


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Offline DaddyAck

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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2007, 12:23:32 AM »
Oh I love the 38 G and J, I typically do not feel as confident in the L. but I do use it ocasionally. (that is when Im not in some form of 109)
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Offline SteveBailey

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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2007, 08:29:32 PM »
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My first instinct in that situation would be to do a climbing left turn and then roll back over and do a Split-S.(the P-51 would probably over shoot me.) I think that situation would be survivable,you would just have to use his E against him.

                     
   
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If the 51 driver is familiar w/ his plane... Bang.... you're dead before you can "roll back over"


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so I would have forced him into a horizontal turning fight.


Bang, you're dead too. Flat turn that 38 and you will find yourself out of e w/ a pony over you who can kill you at his leisure.

Whatever move you make after dodging the first pass must be moves that attempt to equalize the E states between you and your opponent, get them at least close enough to afford you gun solution.  In other words, they must be in the vert as any pony pilot w/ some skill is going to fight in the vert as well, especially since he is E superior. You can hope the pony pilot is one of those "one-pass-and run" clowns, your odds there aren't horrible.  The problem is those pony sticks that will stick around to bleed you out until you can't evade/ get your nose up enough to defeat his gun  solution  w/ a face shot of your own.


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Offline Benny Moore

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2007, 08:42:36 PM »
There's almost no excuse for getting shot down by a P-51 in a P-38, unless there are multiple bandits.
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2007, 09:00:43 PM »
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There's almost no excuse for getting shot down by a P-51 in a P-38, unless there are multiple bandits.



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Offline Fianna

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« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2007, 09:11:40 PM »
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get them at least close enough to afford you gun solution.  In other words, they must be in the vert as any pony pilot w/ some skill is going to fight in the vert as well



I can't understand what you're trying to say here...
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Offline Fianna

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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2007, 09:12:49 PM »
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There's almost no excuse for getting shot down by a P-51 in a P-38, unless there are multiple bandits.



Or the other guy's better than you.


Everything equal, though (except for E-states)...

The only way I can see the pony not dieing is if it runs away.
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Offline SteveBailey

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« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2007, 09:18:01 PM »
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Or the other guy's better than you.


Everything equal, though...

The only way I can see the pony not dieing is if it runs away.


There ya go, he didn't mention about starting on equal footing.
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Offline Fianna

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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2007, 09:20:22 PM »
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There ya go, he didn't mention about starting on equal footing.



I forgot to put something the first time. :lol
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Offline evenhaim

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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2007, 08:56:04 AM »
p38s are easy targets for a pony unless the 38 is alot higher or has more E
equal pilots my bets on the pony
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