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Offline stickpig

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« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2007, 10:03:29 PM »
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Do you remember all the *****ing and newbs vulching the field. HT just got tired of all the complaints and put a end to that. I do wish we had it back...


yea.... Then there was a mass vulch on the vulcher till he submitted.

Man that was great times
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« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2007, 10:12:53 PM »
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Generally both players take off from opposite fields at about the same time, in the same plane, with the same load-out, and climb to pre-determined altitude where they level.  When players get within Icon range, the two shall climb, dive, or stay level, but generally fly towards each other and cold merge(no HOing on merge).  Most consider HOing on any merge a cheap shot, as neither has gained an advantage on the other.  Those are the basic rules of an average duel in AH!

Mark



and all that BS, NOPE., Uh but skyrock devatiad 3 ft.
Plick :lol

End of the day Merge at ALT indicated, from there, well, your dueling
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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2007, 10:21:35 PM »
He was using his E and waiting for you to go nose down. Its not BnZ but a common DA tactic when you recognize the other guys lack of E.

Storch should have waited our scrubbed some speed but you could have won the fight. I wouldn't call it a "for the record" da merge. I would call it a friendly merge both of you could have one.

You made a mistake not hanging it out and going nose down.  Its hard to make a vet over shoot but he also made mistakes.

What he called running was just that. Your ACM kicked in because he had the angle. Running doesn't always mean 1/2 sector on the deck running. You disengaged because he was going to win.

Yall need to make up and DA for about 10 fights. At that point their will be a obvious winner. I could tell both of you were rusty in the da.

From what i viewed their were no hands down winner.
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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2007, 10:29:14 PM »
ya I haven't been playing nearly as much only logged 5 hours probably in the past week or so. 30 total this month to my normal 90 so ya I'm a bit rusty.
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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2007, 01:06:37 AM »
(more backstory)

What this player would do was climb to @ 5-6k while out of icon range, then dive down to 3k before icon range, off merge, spiral climb, then use their E advantage to keep the fight going up.  Then they would do a spiral climb, and keep doing said gentle climb untill you finally ran out of E and would break off, or nose down.

We are talking about 5-10 min. of constant near flat turn gentle climbing, using their initial E advantage to stay just above you.  They did no other offensive maneuver.

If you do break off and show them your 6 to try to get a "fight" started they would make a pass, and when/if they missed, start the whole process again.

No other move was used.
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« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2007, 01:32:31 AM »
Dueling is hard to find people who duel the same way. Very few people Ive dueled follow the standard rules. Many skip the intitial turn at the merge and go for altitude.

     What I suggest is this. Get as much alt as you can, before the merge, then dive down to 3k for the merge. If both parties do this, then its a choice to burn the E trying to slow down to turn better, or to stay fast and use the vertical like so many do anyway. Basically remove many of the rules from it so its a raw fight, with the very beginning stages even, and after the 1st pass, all options are open.

     That way everyone knows what to expect. No surprises like the guy was higher to begin with, the guy HO'd etc. Ive been told "Nice HO" at times when the guy had no guns up me as I slowed and let him pass before my guns. We all see stuff a little different on our end.
 
     So again, if the only rules were being co-alt at the initial merge, and no firing at that intial merge, but all bets are off from that point on, it would simplify the whole affair.
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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2007, 01:45:22 AM »
Lute...

Yes, that is not kosher. The point of a "duel" is equal planes, equal situation. By diving to the merge, your opponent was trying to gain an advantage. Bad form.

As for Husky1/Storch...

Post merge...anything goes. If you don't specify before the fight that forward quarter shots are prohibited, you have nothing to complain about. SRI bud, you got out flown in both fights.
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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2007, 01:56:26 AM »
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yes I think it wasn't a HO shot I hit your cockpit and there was no way you could have hit me.

Storch, You know I don't flame you anymore, but just in the positioning of the planes, me and all my dueling friends would call that a cheap shot!  If that's all you could get, then you for sure didn't outfly him, and shooting at that angle means that you weren't confident enough to outfly him.  No winner there!:aok
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« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2007, 01:59:21 AM »
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the DA is different than the other arenas but the lessons learned can come in handy in a furball if you maintain even a modicum of SA.


exactly right!:aok
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Offline Avaro

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« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2007, 02:15:10 AM »
Here goes a few vids. Agent360 had a bad day hes a better pilot. The other is me and mark owning eachother.:D These are both after i had gotten back from a long break. :aok These should give people the insight on the DAer's rules..

Linky http://www.speedyshare.com/638630780.html
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« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2007, 02:57:52 AM »
will someone teach me how to duel? i dont know how:D
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Re: Question for those that Duel
« Reply #56 on: July 22, 2007, 04:20:47 AM »
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Originally posted by WMLute
Quick question.

If you in the DA doing a "formal" duel with a pilot using "standard" DA rules and you agree to a 3k merge, is it acceptable for a player to climb to 6k then dive down to 3k before icon range?

Opinions?


(EDIT: there is a backstory here which I will hold off on for now)


**** no.
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Offline Slash27

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« Reply #57 on: July 22, 2007, 04:34:35 AM »
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will someone teach me how to duel? i dont know how:D


Stop flying the Typh for starters:D
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« Reply #58 on: July 22, 2007, 07:12:39 AM »
I'll accept the critique but from my view he took cannon all over the cockpit.  as I said it was an inpromptu fight and fun for me.  I didn't HO him but got a nice front quarter shot.

I can't view the film I have been having problems for about one week now where if I down films to AH viewer it makes my system crash.
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« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2007, 08:48:52 AM »
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I don't film anything, It's a game and of zero importance.
Yet you sure do post about it quite a bit.
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