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Offline Ack-Ack

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« on: July 21, 2007, 05:46:48 PM »
I know many of you have sent me emails and private messages asking me for a copy of my stick scale.  I do apologize for not posting them sooner but it is pretty damn hard to modify the stick scaling manually like you used to be able to do in AH1.  In fact, it's too much trouble to go through.  It would take too much time to create a walkthrough that explains how to modify your joystick setting manually and most likely will just end up confusing players.


So, I took the easy way out and took screenshots of my stick scale for elevator and ailerons.  Don't need to scale rudders or throttle.
 
Click on the below link to download the screenshots of my stick scale.  If anyone needs additional help in fine tuning, please feel free to sent me a private message.


Stick Scale Screenshots


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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2007, 08:12:55 PM »
It's interesting that you have a linear scaling when so many say that its a no-no and chose a more exponential curve.  Have you tried both ways, and if so, what are your thoughts on each way?

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 08:29:06 PM »
In AH1 where they had a graphical representation of the stick scale, the curve was very similiar to the curve of a longbow.  IMO, that's the only place you should see a curve but the sliders themselves were the same settings as those in the screenshot.

With those that set their sliders to form an exponential curve, I guess the usefulness would depend on what you fly and how you fly.  If you like to turn fight, especially at or near stall speeds and want a stick scale that helps minimize the nose bounce then I recommend scaling your stick like mine.


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Offline Hazard69

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2007, 02:16:24 AM »
Those pics seem to be showing the default settings no? (10,20,30...etc)

Whenever I use those settings I get the "Dont move controls so rapidly" with my Cyborg evo.

Guess I'll just have to carry on experimenting with my scaling.

Thanks anyway!:aok
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2007, 04:42:49 AM »
Nope, not default.  

try adjusting the deadband and dampen sliders and see if that works.


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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2007, 07:19:15 PM »
I've used AKAKs stick scaling for several years & feel that they are the best for my flying.  Try them.
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2007, 07:39:22 PM »
I posted a thread in Jan. 02 under a diff name and still use the same settings that were given to us by Lephturn and AKAK. Upon coming back to AH in June 07 I immediately tried to set them back up from memory but these #'s made it easy. I wasn't to far off, now I just got to tweak it a little to suit me better. Can't look at the pics because they expired. been up for 74 hrs or so it says.

It's a great starting point fellas

Thanks again AKAK.

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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2007, 08:10:57 PM »
At the time I didn't realize that the file host had a time limit as too how long your file will be  hosted so I made another thread that explains how to manually edit the stick config files to adjust the scaling.

Also, thanks.

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Here you go beaston, this is the scale that I use for my stick.

Just open your stick config file in your AH2 settings folder (be sure to back it up before editing) and copy and paste these lines over the ones in the config file.

Roll
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00

Pitch
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00

Yaw
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00

In each of your config files for your controllers, just look for the line that will say "Axis # Roll/Pitch/Yaw". Below those lines, there will be numbers similiar to the ones above. Those are your stick scale numbers. Just copy and paste the above numbers and save your config file. Hope it helps.


Hope this helps.


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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 07:18:31 PM »
I looked for my stick config file and couldn't find one in any of the AH folders.  I did a search for stick.* and found a couple of outlook files with the name stick.cfg.  They are Microsoft outlook config files and can't be openend.  There is no stick.cfg in any AH folder.  Can anyone tell me I should find the folder or if it has a different name.  

I wanted to compare my settings with Ack-Acks but obviouly ende up frustrated.

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 07:24:48 PM »
Open that file with wordpad and you should have no problems reading it. Then copy and save that file to your desktop and caopy and paste Ackacks #'s where they belong.

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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 09:56:32 PM »
Mystery solved, maybe.  For anyone trying to do this.  The file is probably not named stick.cfg.  Mine is named logitechwingmanforce3dusb.jsm becuase I am using a Logitech stick (Actually it's a CH stick but that's another story).  It's a .jsm file, not a .cfg file.  It is in the settings folder in the AH program folders.  

It appears the file is named after the type of stick you are using.  what I dont understand is that there seem to be three lines for pitch and three for roll.  

Here is the first half of the file:

Logitech WingMan Force 3D USB
4,15
Y axis
0,32410,65535,0.082000,0.172000,0.250000
AXIS,PITCH,0,1
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00
AXIS,PITCH,0,1
0.10,0.20,0.30,0.40,0.50,0.60,0.70,0.80,0.90,1.00
AXIS,PITCH,0,1
0.10,0.20,0.30,0.40,0.50,0.60,0.70,0.80,0.90,1.00
NOTUSED,NOTUSED,0,0
X axis
0,32022,65535,0.090000,0.180000,0.250000
AXIS,ROLL,0,1
0.45,0.49,0.53,0.57,0.62,0.67,0.73,0.83,0.93,1.00
AXIS,ROLL,0,1
0.10,0.20,0.30,0.40,0.50,0.60,0.70,0.80,0.90,1.00
AXIS,ROLL,0,1
0.10,0.20,0.30,0.40,0.50,0.60,0.70,0.80,0.90,1.00

I plugged in Ack-Acks numbersin the forst pitch and roll lines.  I opened the games and the sliders had changed to match the numbers.
Does anyone know what the other two pitch and roll lines are for?  

I want to make sure something isn't messed up.

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2007, 07:04:14 AM »
my guess would be that your looking at the 3 modes you can set your stick for in the game.

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2007, 08:18:45 AM »
Pretty good guess.  I should have thought of that. :o
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2007, 08:56:09 PM »
man im using this scale now with my saitek 290 and it killed all the nose bounce and im not tweeking as bad on the rudder when i pull lead so my nose dosnt skew.

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2007, 10:12:18 PM »
So do I have to go into this .jsm or whatever to put these numbers, or do I do it in game?
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