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Offline ariansworld

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What is a good rifle?
« on: July 23, 2007, 08:30:24 PM »
What would be a good rifle for small game hunting and is not super expensive?  
What is your reccomendation?
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2007, 08:40:25 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2007, 08:45:00 PM »
If you want a pure .22 rimfire rifle, one of the very best values is probably the Ruger 10-22 semiautomatic rifle. The 22 rimfire is probably the best all around small game rifle if you intend to hunt game such as squirrel, rabbit, and that type of small game.

As an alternative, you can get a single shot take down rifle, or rifle shotgun combo. I won a little 22/.410 take down rifle/shotgun at a NWTF convention, my son loves it. It is very accurate, and suitable for most any small game you'd want to take. It is an inexpensive little combo both to buy and to shoot.

Try looking at http://www.galleryofguns.com they have a gun locator you can use to search by type and caliber as opposed to brand.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2007, 08:52:58 PM »
You need to define "small game" to get any good advice.  I wouldn't shoot even a coyote with a regular .22 because of the chance it won't be a fatal shot, but as noted before a .22 is fine for rabbit and other small animals.  I also like the 10-22, and you can buy pretty cheap kits to make it a lot more accurate.  There are aftermarket stocks, barrels, and trigger kits that can let you really customize the gun for whatever use you have for it.  As an example, a stainless 10-22 with a mild bull barrel, custom trigger, and composite stock, can make a great all-weather varmint or very small game rifle accurate enough to hit a rabbit out to 200 yards.

A hunting rifle chambered in .223 will take game up to small deer and can be more accurate than a .22 especially beyond 100 yards, and the ammo is still fairly cheap.  AR-15 lookalikes will be very expensive, but there are other less hyped .223 rifles that would do just fine and won't cost as much.

Avoid a mini-14 for hunting unless you intend to take close-range shots only.  They are not known for their accuracy even factory new, and making a mini-14 more accurate will cost just as much as buying a more accurate gun to begin with.

AR-15 (M-16) variants are quite often very accurate, but the cost is typically more than double than a regular hunting rifle.

If you want to shoot deer and larger game, you should get something beefier.  Realize that picking the gun and picking the type of ammunition are two separate issues...  Some guns are only chambered for certain rounds so if you fixate on a particular round, you might miss out on the chance to own a really good gun that just happens to be chambered in something else.

This article discusses bullet size/weight relative to the type of game you're shooting:  http://www.chuckhawks.com/hunting_bullet_guide1.htm

I personally decided to buy a browning a-bolt chambered in 7mm remmington magnum, because that combination can take everything from small deer (with a lightweight bullet) to elk/moose (with a heavier bullet) and is quite accurate out to 400 yards or more straight from the factory.  The downside is that premium quality rounds cost about $3 each and I don't reload, so every time it goes bang it costs me $2-$3.  Compare that with my .223 mini-14 (bought for practice, plinking, and varmint hunting) which costs about 10 cents per shot.

I own a 10-22, a mini-14, and the a-bolt.  My brother owns an olympic arms AR with the A2 design and a heavy barrel.  His AR completely outshoots both my 10-22 and mini-14.  When he got back from army bootcamp, I saw him nail a running jackrabbit at 50 yards, and I personally shot .7 inch 5-shot groups at 100 yards from a simple sandbag rest with his AR.  My mini-14 shoots 3 to 4 inch groups at 100 yards and I'm told that is "typical" for a mini-14.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2007, 08:58:27 PM »
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What would be a good rifle for small game hunting and is not super expensive?  
What is your reccomendation?
Thanks.


If by small animal hunting you mean about the size of rabbits and such with a maximum range of 150 yards or less a .22 is really the best bet. You'll get all kinds of recomendations for a rifle.

I have both a Marlin and a Ruger. I shoot the Marlin most often. With iron sights the Marlin's sights are more accurate. I haven't scoped either one to see which one shoots the smaller groups. The Marlin is the only one I have brought game back with. I can hit faster and more often with it than the Ruger as it fits me better and is lighter to carry to boot. If you get the chance, try to shoot a couple examples of different rifles and see what feels best to you.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2007, 09:03:33 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2007, 09:10:23 PM »
Ruger 10-22 can't be beat.  You're almost required by law to own at least one.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2007, 09:47:20 PM »
I personally use a Remington model 710 30-06.  Cost around $300.  Can kill a deer at 300 yds easy.

Came with a scope, I swapped it out with my old gun though, can't remember what it was.

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2007, 10:00:14 PM »
Eagl,

Is that the ultra mag or regular mag?  I have the ultra mag version that I only use on elk and it's ammo cost is about $2 a shell.  My brother gets them reloaded for about $0.70 a piece which saves some.

Re: small game gun -- as has been said, depends on which species of small game you are going for and what your typical shooting scenario will be.

I have .22's for plinking and squirrels/rabbits.  I don't varmit hunt, so I skip over the centerfire 22 cals (22-250, 223, etc.).  My children use a 243 (smallest caliber my state allows for deer and a 308.  I use a Rem 280 model 700 as my primary whitetail sized game hunting.  My father actually uses this caliber as his elk rifle also and it will be my backup gun this fall for a Colorado trip.

For upland birds, I have a couple of different shotguns in 12 gauge I use.  The kids use a 20 gauge.

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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2007, 10:03:59 PM »
springfiled 30.06!

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2007, 03:16:30 AM »
.22 or .22 magnum.
A friend of mine has a Russian .22. I don't recall the sort, but it's frigging good.
.22 auto is also good for small game. I presume you are referring to rabbits etc.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2007, 07:01:19 AM »
marlin model 60 .22 caliber

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2007, 07:15:31 AM »
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My mini-14 shoots 3 to 4 inch groups at 100 yards and I'm told that is "typical" for a mini-14.
 ya...we owned 3 mini 14's and they did hold about a 3 inch group at best at 100 yard...but!! most mini 14's made after 2002 i believe hold about a 1 to 2 inch pattern now at 100 yards..i guess they have fixed alot of the inaccuracy issues in the mini-14.

i really like a 22 mag:) has a alot more punch than a 22 long rifle and not too spendy on rounds.. 223 is a great round too for small game..but its a little much for just goofer shooting..lol..and its powerfull anuff to kill large game..but here in washington state..you cant hunt for deer with a 223..think biggest they will let you hunt are coyotes with a 223 in this state.a really neat small game round is that 22hmr and 17 rem..if you want somthing a little more powerfull than a 22..try the 22mag..22 hmr or 17 rem:)

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2007, 07:24:50 AM »
the mini 14 is a rifle to hit stuff on the fly with.  while it certainly will not win any accuracy contests it does it's intended job efficiently.  it's a carbine gents and as such it is very good.

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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2007, 08:05:52 AM »
The Arctic Warfare Super Magnum

4-5 inch groups at 1200 yards.

If you are worried about price, you can probably do without the optional butt rest.
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