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« on: August 09, 2007, 03:22:51 AM »
So ive been searching the forums and havent found a solution.

My question is, with all these people who pay 15 $ A month to play, why arent we seing major changes in say, graphics? I think the gameplay is great, could use a few changes but its basically great. However the graphcis... not so great, I mean for a game like this they are decent... but IMO really outdated.. and with all that $$$ rolling in each month you would think that HTC could ugprade the graphics to something more modern? Yes, ive dled and installed the HI-res patch... but that really didnt change much... yes it made it look slightly better but not what i expected.

So my main question is for HTC, when can we expect to see a graphics update *major change such as a new graphcis engine* ?

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2007, 03:37:38 AM »
With all settings maxed, hi res pack and some of better skins the game looks great.

You have to remember that this game is for online combat.  Not 32 player, not 100 player,  but several hundreds.  

It also caters for people who don't have the latest super dooper computers so they can still play too.

This community thrives on the dogfights, the battles over land and the egos clashing.  No other WW2 combat simulation provides the same overall experience.

The latest patch has made the game look better from what it was so HTC does put the effort in to improve.  Some of the latest boxed games have looked very pretty and I know what point you are trying to make.

However, nearly all of these new boxed games the flight models are very poor.  HT has spent alot of time perfecting the physics and I for one would prefer to have a better flight model over superb eye candy any day.


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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2007, 04:13:10 AM »
i got to go with bruv on this one :aok
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2007, 04:40:30 AM »
i agree with bruv graphics are great for an online game

what were you expecting in terms of graphics cgi?
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2007, 04:44:02 AM »
AH2 could use better lighting. More light sources, dynamic lights and reflections would make AH shine (no pun intended) like Il-2 does. The models and textures are excellent (although animations like retracting undercarriage and ship sinking could be done better. Smoke and fire effects could be better as well).
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2007, 04:50:42 AM »
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Smoke and fire effects could be better as well).


I've seen some of Croduh's work in the Terrain editor forum and it can be done with the tools available.  Whether HT includes player made graphics in the way maps and skins are done who knows.
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2007, 05:31:09 AM »
Bruv nicely put sir <> :aok

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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2007, 05:35:35 AM »
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Originally posted by BS8th_Jaw
So ive been searching the forums and havent found a solution.

My question is, with all these people who pay 15 $ A month to play, why arent we seing major changes in say, graphics? I think the gameplay is great, could use a few changes but its basically great. However the graphcis... not so great, I mean for a game like this they are decent... but IMO really outdated.. and with all that $$$ rolling in each month you would think that HTC could ugprade the graphics to something more modern? Yes, ive dled and installed the HI-res patch... but that really didnt change much... yes it made it look slightly better but not what i expected.

So my main question is for HTC, when can we expect to see a graphics update *major change such as a new graphcis engine* ?


What a great idea.... make the game unplayable for all the guys with low end computers.  Who needs an FPS of 18 when you can have rubber bullets with a FPS of 4.  

Heck....why don't these guys just get a job.  Send their kids to work.  Get divorced.  Don't pay the mortgage for a month an get a wandango computer instead.

They may be HO freaks but at least when they HO it'll look fantastic.:aok

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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2007, 06:26:32 AM »
I think AH2 has a good balance of playability, looks, dl size and can be played on fairly dated machines. Alot of the players are adults who are not as spoiled or interested in very pretty graphics or computers as the younger generation of gamers who spend alot of money on their systems.

When all the planes gets updated looks its gonna be real good. Some still have the old looks and they look so bad (spoiled by the newer planes) that i usually dont fly them.

Also keep in mind that HTC is small operation unlike many of the boxed games by EA and whatnot were they have an army of guys releasing one version and thats it. Very few games have been out there as long as AH while beeing under constant development.

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2007, 07:38:20 AM »
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Originally posted by BS8th_Jaw
My question is, with all these people who pay 15 $ A month to play, why arent we seing major changes in say, graphics?

So my main question is for HTC, when can we expect to see a graphics update *major change such as a new graphcis engine* ?


You willing  to buy me a top-end machine to run it? I work a local dirt-job out here in the sticks. The wife helps where she can. I have three growing boys, and any real good paying job is too far away to justify the cost in fuel to commute 120 miles a day.

I believe HTC is very capable of updating graphics, but they choose not to go too far out of consideration for the player base. Add to that, some of us STILL are running on dial-up in this 21st century of technology :rolleyes: :huh, so no thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2007, 08:19:53 AM »
the last update htc did on the grafix once the bit about it being too dark was quickly sorted actually gave me a better frame rate.
the thing that has to be remembered is as the others have said its a game for everyone with all diferent pcs.

 would like to see some of the stuff done for the se arena find there way into new maps but as people who are trying to make new arena maps have been told keep it simple.

simple so everyone can enjoy what ever there machine.

i like the look of il2 but the flying is poop.

pretty is good if it can work for every one.

dumb and good looking useual has its draw backs
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2007, 08:33:19 AM »
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dumb and good looking useual has its draw backs


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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2007, 10:18:36 AM »
Compare the B-17 and B-24 with the bostonIII and Ki67.

Compare the P-51 with the C202.


You think they're NOT improving it? They are!

They're also working on Combat Tour while doing all this, which explains the slower speed of the graphics upgrades. Fw190s used to look like CRAP. As did the 109E. It was butt ugly, heavy on the "butt!"

Not only has the graphics been enhanced in many ways, the features have also. More realistic cockpits with moving flight controls have been added. More vehicles and aircraft have been added. Hell we're getting the B-25 soon! In several versions!

They just revamped the entire terrain tileset, as well! Redid all the shorelines and trees and many other things. It looks much better now (well, where the map has been updated with new tiles -- some still have the random old tiles and need to be fixed).

I think they're making steady (if not "fast") progress toward a better game. That's just my opinion, based on what I described here.

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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2007, 10:27:43 AM »
To compare you can also take a look in and out of the cockpit of a 190 vs the TA152. The difference is huge.

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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2007, 10:48:01 AM »
Ive seen some AWEsome graphics on 1st person shooters, but those games cannot be played dialup, and all require gaming computers---the graphics we have here are quite good, and if THAT is your greatest concern, the major point of the game  is passing you by
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