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Offline Staga

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« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2001, 02:23:00 PM »
Small hint:
Slogan "Bad reputation is better than no reputation at all" doesn't work in Real world. Same goes with AH and players who have left.
You can be sure that unsatisfied customer wouldn't promote your services to other potential customers.

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« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2001, 02:30:00 PM »
I don't really care about the players that have already left... they aren't the ones that caused this inballance.

I'm more worried about the players with accounts that just aren't playing... and as a result may be leaving shortly.

This tour started out with some phenominal numbers as a result of the 1.07 release carryover.  As of late, its seen 1/3 the action.  What do you do to appease a fickle audience?

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« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2001, 02:36:00 PM »
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What do you do to appease a fickle audience?

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« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2001, 03:15:00 PM »
It was a serious question wulfie.  I don't know that your answer helps much.

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« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2001, 03:16:00 PM »
Hey...maybe you should take a sip?   :D

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« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2001, 03:57:00 PM »
Staga, I guess it also depends on the reputation of the person giving something a bad referal. It's a two way street.
 Luckily for AH these web boards are wide open to public view, the game comes with free H2H and subscribers can even have a free two week, no obligation trial to see for themselves what AH is like. A heck of alot more than can be said for ANY other online venue out there. WB's? Nope. AW? FA? Again, no. However these programs doesn't cost anything either. WW2O? Hey   ;) They have a $40 plus door fee, non refundable in most cases. IMO, anyone who doesn't and yet takes the invalidated opinion of someone else as gospel is spineless and would probably jump off a bridge if they were told it was kewl and thats what all the others do too.

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« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2001, 09:36:00 AM »
Why would anyone fly for a country that used a dildo for an icon?   Guess, as toad said, because it is very "relaxed".   Well yeah... I can see how it would be relaxed when you are able to send out 15 bombers and still outnumber the enemy 2 to 1 in fighters.  
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« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2001, 09:48:00 AM »
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Hey...maybe you should take a sip?    :D

I would, but I'm saving the whole glass for you.
   
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« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2001, 10:44:00 AM »
Damn I like that Swulfe guy, always amusing & one funny bastard. <S>

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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2001, 11:26:00 AM »
Well, Laz, as I said I've been Bish from day one in the beta. What can I say? I really like a lot of the guys that are/stay Bish. I'm not going to single out a few when there are so many I enjoy joking and playing the game with.

The Bish have had numbers lately but there've been many times in the past 2 years that we spent a week or multiple weeks "in the bucket".

It was still fun being Bish then and flying with those same guys. Generally, the guys I hangout with laugh a lot and don't worry about the legendary Bish inability to cooperate to achieve anything.

When we were down, I don't remember endless pleadings, wailings and gnashing of teeth on the BBS about being in the bucket either. There were some to be sure, but nothing like what I've been seeing in here lately.

Maybe THAT's what I like about Bishland and the people that make up its population.  :D

I doubt there is any country that can take as long to capture a field with 10 v 1 odds in their favor as the Bish.  :) (My personal belief is that we're all just a bunch of no-strat furballers. If we get our backs to the wall we can organize for maybe 2-4 captures, but as soon as we have a little room, it's back to furballin'. Just MO.)

We have very few "generals" and most missions that get put up rarely generate much interest. That's just life as a Bish. Can it be that people find this attractive?

Now, as I said before, perhaps there should be a little introspection. All of us realize there's no real fundamental difference in the software for any particular country. Flying for one is the same as flying for another in that respect.

So why do more people choose to fly Bish?

It COULD be because they want to fly where the numbers are presently. That's the easy way to blame all the problems on something you can't control.

Or, it COULD be because there's something about Knightland that isn't appealing to a lot of folks. This is the hard way, the unappealing way to look at the problem.

I'll bare my soul here a second (and get flamed for it, of course.) Long ago there was a player shift. Many of the LW squads went to Knights, as was certainly their perogative. This in and of itself really wasn't the problem. However, some of the more famous complainers in the game ended up in K-land because of this.

For me this had a two-fold effect. One, I stayed Bish because it's always fun to shoot down the complainers.   :D Two, I certainly didn't want to switch to K-land; for me, the continual complaining degrades the enjoyment I get from the game. Having it on CH1 and CH2 simultaneously would not be an improvement IMO.  :)

Sure, things have changed but for me I guess that initial first impression remains.

As I mentioned before, maybe you folks need to see if you can make K-land more attractive to other players somehow.

Attempts to "force" a balance are going to be pretty hard to implement in a way that doesn't tick people off, IMO.

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« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2001, 11:41:00 AM »
I try my best Bg! I fail miserably at everything in life except being a handsomehunk, so I do what I do best here!    

See you in the sky, yanking my joystick like I'm having too much fun!    
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« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2001, 12:10:00 PM »
Toad,

You have an interesting slant on the current knight situation. I hadn't thought about it that way and you could be on to something. I will say, however, that there are numerous knights that I enjoy flying with, but we do have a section of whiners. More so than the other countries? I don't know, but maybe a little more vocal.  :)

I too have been here from the beginning and other than a short stint with the rooks, I have been knight. Was a knight at the start as I recall and we were the whoopin' boys then, lol. I know all about the "turn in the bucket". I was one of the "purple horde" in WB and it went on there too (damn those reds).

It just seems to me that it has lasted a little longer than usual this time, going on 2 month's actually. It may not be as apparent to other countries, but I believe that some who have recently rotated to the knights, are getting a taste of what it is like. Milenko comes to mind. Man he was pissed, and I don't blame him.

Knights have become rather complacent and fight as long as they can until the horde reappears, which is usually around 2130 EDT.  :) There is actually no reason for us to be organized any longer because we simply can not combat the numbers.

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« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2001, 12:11:00 PM »
The Knits are rutabagas, and I don't see why any other explanation is nessessary why I would not want to be one, for any length of time, regardless of the situation.

Really.

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« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2001, 12:23:00 PM »
lol, I luv ya creamo, I really do!!

You know the old saying. "Ya are what ya eat"!

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« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2001, 12:31:00 PM »
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"Ya are what ya eat"!

By that logic... is Animal actually Creamo?

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