We Need Manufacturing Back in America

[Hap]

http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=827

Buchanan's compelling, as usual, portrayal of what will hit America like a ton of bricks sometime in what, mabye 20 years or less?  It's my guess on the timing, not his.  

Take 1 min and read it.

The bubble has burst, yet not quite all the air has dissipated.

[Fishu]

There's quite alot of crap in the article.

He forgets that the USA is no longer the only industrial might in the world and there's competition. The world no longer has to buy products from the USA like after the WWII. An isolationist politics wouldn't help the freedom country either - People wants to buy goods from abroad, now that the US industry isn't the only one producing quality products. Try to prevent people from getting foreign goods and dissent will grow. Unless, of course, they'd rather prefer to be a part of non-freedom country.

"But they rebate that VAT tax on exports to the United States and stick a 19 percent VAT equivalent on all imports from America. Without calling it a tariff and a subsidy, it is a tariff and a subsidy."

This is complete BS argument, when he compares VAT to a tariff and a subsidy. What about the 7% or so VAT in the state of NY? It's the same thing as the european VAT. The stores in NY can sell goods VAT free to a state with 0% VAT. Same applies to european goods - destination VAT is applied to the price, not the origin VAT. VAT is applied to all goods, foreign and local.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Fishu
"But they rebate that VAT tax on exports to the United States and stick a 19 percent VAT equivalent on all imports from America. Without calling it a tariff and a subsidy, it is a tariff and a subsidy."

This is complete BS argument, when he compares VAT to a tariff and a subsidy. What about the 7% or so VAT in the state of NY? It's the same thing as the european VAT. The stores in NY can sell goods VAT free to a state with 0% VAT. Same applies to european goods - destination VAT is applied to the price, not the origin VAT. VAT is applied to all goods, foreign and local.

Whats he moaning about? The US slaps tarrifs on NZ imports all the freakin time. Typical ignorant politician - pot meet kettle.

[Scherf]

Gonna need some Asian management.

[Rolex]

Sorry, but that "opinion" by Buchanan is nonsense. He's just telling people what they want to hear instead of telling them what they don't want to hear - the truth. His premise and almost every sentence is wrong.

I don't even know where to begin, it's such nonsense. Just follow the money and you'll understand who in America is "responsible." Manufacturing in America will continue to decline and those responsible for it will continue to profit from its decline.

[stockli]

Pat seems to have missed the boat by blaming every other country on this.

Our own federal government needs to make it easier for our companies to do business in this country.

We sell plenty of American vehicles all over the world, and up until recently Ford was the best selling brand worldwide.

We have to look at what our on govt does to manufacturing in this country, once we realize we are the problem we may be able to fix it.

[Excel1]

what fishu said

buchanan claiming that vat or gst as it's know in other countries is subsidies or tarrifs by stealth is complete rubbish. beats me why he would say that because he can't be that ignorant, or at least he didnt appear to be when I use to see him on crossfire.

it seems as if hes trying to use the rest of the world as a whipping boy to drum up domestic support for an isolationist agenda  

We sell plenty of American vehicles all over the world, and up until recently Ford was the best selling brand worldwide

how many of those fords sold out side of america were made in america?
lots of fords on the roads here in nz but very few of them are american made because of the cost and because few models are avalible in right hand drive. two or three years ago new base model v8 mustangs were selling here for close to nz$100k. of course the conversion to right hand drive added considerably to the price. why bother, you can get an aussie v8 ford with better performance for half the price and the steering wheel is where its suppose to be straight from the factory. there are more american made vehicles here than say ten years ago but generally though american auto makers have been preocupied with the domestic market and ignored foreign markets.

[lazs2]

you guys need to start driving on the right side of the road.

lazs

[Airscrew]

“WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US.”

[68Wooley]

Originally posted by lazs2
you guys need to start driving on the right side of the road.

lazs

No, no, no. Left is right. Right is wrong. Its simple really. All the truly great countries of the world know this.

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by lazs2
you guys need to start driving on the right side of the road.

lazs

I thought in kalifornia they drove on both sides of the road...

[BigGun]

Originally posted by Rolex
Sorry, but that "opinion" by Buchanan is nonsense. He's just telling people what they want to hear instead of telling them what they don't want to hear - the truth. His premise and almost every sentence is wrong.

I don't even know where to begin, it's such nonsense. Just follow the money and you'll understand who in America is "responsible." Manufacturing in America will continue to decline and those responsible for it will continue to profit from its decline.

That is because Buchanan is nonsense most of the time. Manufacturing in the US will definitely continue to decline, and that is not necessarily a bad thing, unless of course you are in manufacturing with no other skills and have ignored the writing on the wall.

[Rich46yo]

We dont have much of a work ethic here in America anymore. Heck, you dont even have to work if you dont want to. We subsidize professional babymaking/cracksmoking. That, and we allow unchecked illegal immigration which is just another form of welfare because we pay for all the services for the illegals while they dont pay nothing back in the form of taxes. I'm talking millions and millions of people here. Who do you think pays when they get sick, have babies, or send their kids to public schools?

                         The problems of America? First off everyone thinks they have something coming from Govt., even illegal immigrants. Secondly everyone thinks the well is always going to be full. Be it their credit cards of the Govt. One day its all going to pop, and when it does, its going to be a bad one. At least during the Great Depression we had an industrious population willing to work to get us out of it. Now what do we have? A bunch of sniveling whiners on SSN because their back hurts, or, they have anxiety disorder.

[swoose]

I know very little about the different taxes on importing and exporting goods. What I do know is the fact that the paper company where I have spent the last thirty years of my life has had to shut down two paper machines. A lot of this is due to the  competition from China. It is difficult to compete with a country which has very little regulations concerning the environment and we have to spend millions (with no return on investment ) just so we can operate. I agree it is the right thing to do but it makes it hard to compete. The cost for labor is also low in the Asian countries which makes it also hard to compete. The price to live as free people has not gotten any cheaper and we are lucky to negotiate a 2% raise each year (which BTW is usually the cost increase of our health insurance).
  I for one am glad that the manufacturers that are in bed with the communist Chinese are taking a big hit on recalls. I am sorry that anyone was hurt because of the defective products but the company owners don't mind the risk if it makes their wallets fatter.
 If we were to get into a war with China, Wal-Mart would go out of business and we couldn't even make uniforms for our troops or probably a lot of other supplies which some other government supplier is buying from them.
  Swoose

BTW I appreciate all the check sixes I get. My SA is not good

[stantond]

We need quality control back in manufacturing in America!  It's really sad when I am consciously willing to pay more for an American made product that is a piece of crap.  The sad part is that I won't continue to do that, which contributes to the death spiral of American manufacturing.


Regards,

Malta