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Offline spit16nooby

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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2008, 06:43:30 PM »
In my opinion the difference between the k-4 manuevaranility is minuscule and that the added speed and high alt performance make the k-4 better because it can catch all of those runners out there and the few it can't out run it can just slow em down then spiral climb up to 20k and absolutely slaughter them.(I actually did this once against an La-7 and was going to head as high as possible but a shortage of fuel forced me to stop and quickly finish him off. I then glided to the nearest base saving my fuel for landing corrections my wheels hit the ground and I slowed to a stop and my engine sputtered out)  Also the 30mm once you get good with it like agent 360 and others is MORE effective than other guns due to the 99% 1 shot kill or immobilization.(taking part of the wing off a plane that can fly with only one)  The 13mms are also a credible back up that can be used to scare enemies into turning or finishing off an enemy.

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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2008, 07:39:04 PM »
The difference is the k4 is superior in just about every aspect.
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2008, 04:38:05 AM »
The difference is the k4 is superior in just about every aspect.

G14 is more manouverable and is much easier to fly. personally I dont like K4 at all, in my opinion G14 is the most balanced 109. But what do I know, Im a noob...
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2008, 07:26:17 AM »
G14 is more manouverable and is much easier to fly. personally I dont like K4 at all, in my opinion G14 is the most balanced 109. But what do I know, Im a noob...
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2008, 08:57:43 AM »
The F is the nicest to fly... It's an absolute pleasure... but as far as brute force goes... The K4 cannot be beaten.

The difference between the G-14 and K4's turning ability may not look huge on paper but it is significant in game. I notice a big difference between the two and I will up a Gustav if I need a quickish plane than can really mix it up in a good fight too.... Base defence against a CV... the Gustav is perfect if the cons know what they're doing.

If they're seals I'll just up a G-2 or G-6 and make use of the 200 20mm rounds. If they're smart and I need a bit of extra grunt to keep the carrier steel honest in a fight, I'll go with a G-14.

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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2008, 11:10:37 AM »
In my opinion the difference between the k-4 manuevaranility is minuscule and that the added speed and high alt performance make the k-4 better because it can catch all of those runners out there and the few it can't out run it can just slow em down then spiral climb up to 20k and absolutely slaughter them.(I actually did this once against an La-7 and was going to head as high as possible but a shortage of fuel forced me to stop and quickly finish him off. I then glided to the nearest base saving my fuel for landing corrections my wheels hit the ground and I slowed to a stop and my engine sputtered out)  Also the 30mm once you get good with it like agent 360 and others is MORE effective than other guns due to the 99% 1 shot kill or immobilization.(taking part of the wing off a plane that can fly with only one)  The 13mms are also a credible back up that can be used to scare enemies into turning or finishing off an enemy.

What alt did you start at?
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2008, 12:13:25 PM »
In my opinion the difference between the k-4 manuevaranility is minuscule and that the added speed and high alt performance make the k-4 better because it can catch all of those runners out there and the few it can't out run it can just slow em down then spiral climb up to 20k and absolutely slaughter them.(I actually did this once against an La-7 and was going to head as high as possible but a shortage of fuel forced me to stop and quickly finish him off. I then glided to the nearest base saving my fuel for landing corrections my wheels hit the ground and I slowed to a stop and my engine sputtered out)  Also the 30mm once you get good with it like agent 360 and others is MORE effective than other guns due to the 99% 1 shot kill or immobilization.(taking part of the wing off a plane that can fly with only one)  The 13mms are also a credible back up that can be used to scare enemies into turning or finishing off an enemy.
I fly solely the g14 and have for a good year or so since i switched for the k4 the change is huge and i believe anyone who has flown the g14 enough knows it, like mip and wmaker for example, and you are aware the g14 carries an optional 30mm as well? Only real advantage i see with the k4 is running, climbing(above 10k), and maybe catching some of the faster planes.
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2008, 01:07:13 PM »
What alt did you start at?

about 3k
I fly solely the g14 and have for a good year or so since i switched for the k4 the change is huge and i believe anyone who has flown the g14 enough knows it, like mip and wmaker for example, and you are aware the g14 carries an optional 30mm as well? Only real advantage i see with the k4 is running, climbing(above 10k), and maybe catching some of the faster planes.

I have plenty of k-4 sorties and a average amount of g-14 sorties and just find the k-4 to be better overall.  I guess people just have different opinions.

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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #53 on: July 27, 2008, 02:06:14 PM »
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Only real advantage i see with the k4 is running, climbing(above 10k), and maybe catching some of the faster planes.

 That alone constitues all the prerequisites required to become a successful MA plane.

 

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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #54 on: July 27, 2008, 02:32:49 PM »
That alone constitues all the prerequisites required to become a successful MA plane.

 
not neccesary if you have half an atom of skill or acm knowledge.
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2008, 03:01:49 PM »
freez why the 14 over the 2?
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2008, 03:54:53 PM »
freez why the 14 over the 2?

I like the 30mm in general but the g14 airframe suites me, i take the 2 for furballs all the time, but i fly by feeling and i need the extra wieght of the g14 to through around, sounds wierd I know, in theory the lighter the better, but for me its rather opposite. I need that wieght for some of my acms and overshoots almost like muscle memory.
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2008, 04:13:19 PM »
I like the fact that the 109K4 can out run just about anything on the deck and in the air. And if an La-7 hunts me down, I can just out turn him
LA7 turns significantly better than K4...

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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #58 on: July 27, 2008, 04:20:21 PM »
LA7 turns significantly better than K4...

but hes uber leet!
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Re: difference between 109 G-14 and 109 K-4
« Reply #59 on: July 27, 2008, 05:52:16 PM »
LA7 turns significantly better than K4...


Fwiw, unless you're in the weeds, the 109K-4 is faster than the La-7.  Stay above 5k and they're not so dangerous.
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