The Dixie Chicks should be President

[LEADPIG]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin


You're a riot!:rofl

Holden Mc Groin either express a serious perspective to me or none at all, but please have one in order to make your point. Other than that, leave me alone.

If you ARE a joke or trying to BE a joke, i don't know, but your doing a good job.

[Holden McGroin]

Holden Mc Groin either express a serious perspective to me or none at all, but please have one in order to make your point. Other than that, leave me alone.

Wait... now you want perspective?

My point was that your statement, "Don't look at it from your perspective, try to look at from no perspective at all" was idiotic.

Okay, you make an observation without perspective.  I challenge you.

Of course, that's just my perspective.

But then since you are just fooling around, I realise that you are not being serious in your last post.

[LEADPIG]

Yes you should have a perspective, in order to make a point which i assumed is what you were doing. I didn't know if you were trying to make a joke or be serious or both, good job though.

Your right about that observation without perspective thing though, i was just being highly absractive in thinking, so much so that sometimes people don't know what i'm talking about. Even me.  

Oh wait i've reached a state of no perspective..........(falls over and dies)

[Shuckins]

You do realize of course that it is impossible to offer comment of anykind about any issue without having a point of reference?

The argument espoused by many on the left that no culture is superior to any other is indicative of an intellectual mindset that is adrift.  In addition to believing that no culture is superior to any other, this "philosophy" espouses the tenet that there are no "absolutes" in human society or behavior.

Whether they wish to admit it or not, that premise is false and morally bankrupt, for absolutes certainly DO exist, and give the lie to the argument that all cultures are equal:  murder, child molestation, sex discrimination, racial discrimination, genocide, and infanticide are all evil....absolutely.  All are practiced by the governments of many of the nations of the "developing" world which are held up as being, somehow, co-equal with that of the democratic west.

Sorry, my friend, the comparison of these cultures with our own reveals that there is, actually, no comparison.  They are NOT equal.

[Tigeress]

The below link says a lot and gets right to the heart of the matter...
(in my humble opinion)

The Issue...

TIGERESS

[Shuckins]

Good post Tigeress.  That is one fearless lady.

She is also, undoubtedly, marked for death.

Which reinforces the point that all cultures are not created equal.

Regards, Shuckins

[Tango]

Originally posted by Tigeress
The below link says a lot and gets right to the heart of the matter...
(in my humble opinion)

The Issue...

TIGERESS

She says it all and is right.

[Tango]

Originally posted by LEADPIG
I said in the above comment i don't care what they do, i don't care if they kill each other, it's not up to me or America to bestow them with the mantle of democratic freedom, they don't want it, fine with me. Just don't come over here and try that crap here, they'd be impinging on my right to live how i want, right or wrong, then they must die. Preferably a slow horrible death, while i stare into their eyes.

Oh and screw the holy book, those terrorist aren't following that totally anyway, they're perverting it for their own needs, hell christians and every religion in existence does that.

So basicly your an isolationist?

[straffo]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Now that's some real respect right there. And for a former soldier too. From a guy who said he was done.

Being a former soldier doesn't prevent anyone to be a current idiot



Aside why should respect be show to some one having done his duty in the military ? respect can be earned in a lot of way no only this way.

And as we're speaking of respect let look at some extract of the first replies to this post :

functioning retards
fat one
you're being a dik
the terrorists like leadpig.

ad nauseam ...

It's the usual culprit at work ...

[lazs2]

I think skyrock and leadpig are moral but...  smug and... that they can't see the forest for the trees.

The war most certainly is about islamofacist terrorists and it is about oil.

We need a stable region.   We would have to fight sooner or latter... the sadman had worked on nukes in the past.. he had gassed his own people... he was toturing and killing hundreds of thousands of his own people... he was.... a very bad man.

Lots of bad men in the world.. but he was sitting on a lot of oil and... he gave us the excuse.   The UN gave us the excuse.   they imposed the sanctions and the inspections and he defied em.  He would have built a nuke... I don't think anyone will dispute that he tried once.. he either was trying at the time or would try in the future...

He invaded the neighbor for the oil.  

Back home... the democrats made certain that the only oil we can use comes from that region.   We can't explore for our own... and even if we do... we can't use it.

The islamofacists aren't really from any country... they are simply a part of every islamic country...

The good thing is..  just pick an islamic country with oil and the terrorists will come to die.   We are killing thousands of the worst people on the planet every month.    A little hard on the citizens of iraq but.... it was bound to be hard on some citizens somewhere no matter what.    At least for all this time we haven't had em do any real damage here (except for the patriot act and making flying no fun)

In the end tho... I don't really care.   When the future owners of 72 virgins detonate an dirty nuke here....

It won't be anyplace that I care much about.  It will just kill a lot of blue voters.

hell... might even be in a city that the dixie chicks are playing at.

lazs

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by lazs2


The war most certainly is about  and it is about oil.



lazs

Well you got one right.  


The fact that they jumped on this IRAQ thing before they caught Osama will haunt this country for years to come.  



It's hard to make a stand for moral/ethical/right things to do, when we give up the torch in such a dishonest manner.


Secure your borders.


Secure your borders.

[lazs2]

skyrock... that's it?

Thats all ya got?   I explained to you that iraq was convienient and that it needed to be done.    You sitting on your hands would not have helped a thing.

Osama is no threat.   we tried but we didn't get him.. now, if he is alive.. he is doing just what we want and focusing on killing his people in iraq.

The US soldiers that you all weep about don't appreciate your concern.  they want to win.. they see progress and they are mostly behind the war.   When I say I support the troops I mean....

I support what they want.   The troops I talk to say stay and win.    When that changes I will support that.

being moral is fine but... there is nothing immoral about the war in iraq.  We got rid of an immoral dictator.    We allowed the people to vote on their own government and their own constitution.   we are killing the worst people on the planet... and it is far from out fat little liberal cities.

yeah... it is about oil... it is about a lot of things but oil is one.

lazs

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by AWMac
SkyRock have  you ever served in the Military?

I don't think so... so sit back in yer EasyBoy Commanders Armchair and just STFU.  You both have no frikken Clue.
 

  My family has paid dearly for my right to live here and voice my opinion.  I won't even honor you with a list of my family members who have fallen fighting under the flag of this great nation.   As my mother once said, before it was america, it was our land.(try and figure that out einstein)
It might be a good idea for you to avoid posting in these types of intellectual discussions, you surely have to be embarrassed by your own stupidity.

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by lazs2
  I explained to you that iraq was convienient and that it needed to be done.  

Osama is no threat.   we tried but we didn't get him..



lazs

Many things need to be done, and that is why we plan.  A bad plan is a bad plan.  

If anyone needs to feel the wrath, it is Osama.  


Mark

[LEADPIG]

Originally posted by Tango
So basicly your an isolationist?

I suppose partly Tango, i just prefer not to say my beliefs, culture or country are superior to any others because i am not arogant enough to do so. I prefer to respect man for his decisions completely at let Karma take over the rest. I believe absolutely when you get down to it there are no rights and wrongs, or true sin in this universe, only your thinking makes it so. For instance Dr. Kevorkian is he wrong for killing people who want to die? I don't think so. They're both doing what they want and my opinion doesn't matter anyway. I'm not, my culture, is not, my beliefs are not superior enough to tell them what to do or that i'm better. That's one reason terrorism has developed because of our arrogant attitudes that were better, were not. To each his own. I don't believe the creator of this universe is even making any judgments on this universe or it's people, he realizes if he did we wouldn't be happy or  exist as thinking individual souls. I think alot of us will have a pleasant surprise when we die and find out God isn't judging us, no one is, but us, and the sense of beauty in us all will be the compass in our own feelings of what we've done and how we've done it. Nobody is superior.