did anyone catch fred thompson on leno last night?

[RedTop]

Originally posted by Mr No Name
Thompson / Tancredo

hmm   posibilities here...

the ti tt y ticket.

or T T ticket...

Mr. T's Ticket

[Thrawn]

I don't get it, there is only one candidate that has demonstrated his belief in the US Constitution.  There is only one candidate that wants to give you your freedom back and reduce the amount of government in your lives.

What the hell is the debate here?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

If you mean Ron Paul, he fails the test in several areas. And by the way, they haven't been successful in taking MY freedom away. They've been successful in taxing me silly, and wasting the money on crap I do not agree with. But I haven't had my freedom restricted.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
If you mean Ron Paul, he fails the test in several areas. And by the way, they haven't been successful in taking MY freedom away. They've been successful in taxing me silly, and wasting the money on crap I do not agree with. But I haven't had my freedom restricted.

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Liquids - Airplane.

[ROC]

Wait lol, are you suggesting that the banning of taking liquids onto an airplane during a period when it was a potential threat was somehow taking away your freedom?

Ok, I'll bite, My freedom to fly with protections in place trumps their freedom to blow me up.

K?

You are not free to yell Fire in a crowded movie theater.

You are not free to run red lights and create chaos in a controlled environment.

You are, still, free to chose your lifestyle, your career, your state you live in.  You are still free to critique your government and more importantly, if you don't like it you can run for office and change it.

People have a twisted expectation of Freedom.

Did I misunderstand your Liquids-Airplane analogy?

[AKIron]

I think Mitt Romney stood out favorably in the debates last night. I'm really hoping Giuliani doesn't win the nomination.

[rpm]

Originally posted by Dago
Maybe you want to tell more of the story, not just one little bit?

Fred Thompson quotes and votes:

So he was for it before he was against it.

Where have I heard that before???

Is he a flip-flopper?

[Rolex]

I thought last election was between the two worst candidates in my lifetime. Looking at next years crop of vegetable heads is even more depressing. Except for the smart one, Ron Paul, looking at the rest of them in both parties is like one of those times you're playing gin, and you get a hand so bad that no matter how you shuffle it up and change it around... it's a crap hand. You're going to lose.

[LePaul]

When Gulianini told a reporter he'd "Get his wife's input on important decisions" as President, I had flashbacks of the HillaryCare crap from the 90s.  No...no...no.  We elect YOU, not your wife!

Since then, Rudy has been out for me.

I like Fred, I like his candid way of discussing the issues at hand without a bunch of kooky soundbites.  His demeanor reminds me a lot of VP Cheney.  His interviews come across as very well versed, thought out and explains his views eloquently.

As for a VP for Fred should he make it that far, I'm still on the fence.  Romney hasn't turned me off while McCain did years ago.  The "Maverick" showed he had no alligence.  To his supporters, party and so forth.

The Dems continue to make light of the real world security threats that are out there.  None of their "head in the sand" approaches make any sense.

[rpm]

Too bad Ron Paul has a snowball's chance. He's definitely the smartest guy in the room.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Thrawn
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Liquids - Airplane.

YOU, living in the land of highly regulated government provided socialist health care as well as severely restricted and heavily regulated private firearm ownership propose to lecture ME on freedom and liberty?

Spare me, you are in no position to offer such a lecture. I choose my own doctor, my own insurance, and most everything else to do with my health care. I keep a closet full of firearms, and carry one everywhere but bars and schools. I travel at will, I hunt and fish at will, I play with my "toys" (AKA firearms, race cars, hot rods, boats) pretty much as I please. I can fly pretty much any where I want (I have no desire to go to Cuba, or places like it). The police don't even pay me any attention, never mind bother me. No, you have zero credibility and standing to lecture me on freedom. Go play in your nanny state.

[lazs2]

If ron paul got up to where I had a chance to vote for him instead of a democrat... of course I would.   He has a few ideas that are a little spacey some not well thought out brainiac libertarian stuff but.. over all.. he would be good for the country... maybe slow the tide of taxes and socialism as much as LBJ increased it...

He won't be in the running tho.

Dred... I don't like rudy at all.   He only looks good when you put him up against a democrat... it is more like the last election.. with him and hillary, I am faced with a horrible choice or with cutting mine and my kids throats.   I will hold my nose and vote for rudy.

On gun control...  the worst republican will always be better than the best democrat when it comes to pres and gun control.   The pres either takes or gives the democrat menopausal old ladies the courage to ram gun control down our childlike throats (for our own good)...

The democrat party line is... more socialism and more gun control... no matter what the candidate says... that will be his guiding light...he will always go along with that party line when the chips are down... they may let him appear to be a maverick if they already have the votes needed but....

Look at who introduces the gun control stuff... It is 99% menopausal sewing circle democrats.

No matter what rudy thinks personally..  he won't sign bills on gun control unless it is a landslide... it is political suicide for a republican pres...  instant loss of 10 million or so votes.   vetoing anti second amendment stuff causes no loss of votes.   You never had those aholes anyway.

lazs

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
YOU, living in the land of highly regulated government provided socialist health care as well as severely restricted and heavily regulated private firearm ownership propose to lecture ME on freedom and liberty?

Spare me, you are in no position to offer such a lecture. I choose my own doctor, my own insurance, and most everything else to do with my health care. I keep a closet full of firearms, and carry one everywhere but bars and schools. I travel at will, I hunt and fish at will, I play with my "toys" (AKA firearms, race cars, hot rods, boats) pretty much as I please. I can fly pretty much any where I want (I have no desire to go to Cuba, or places like it). The police don't even pay me any attention, never mind bother me. No, you have zero credibility and standing to lecture me on freedom. Go play in your nanny state.

lols, I refute your point so you freak out and go for the inductive fallacy and personal attack, nice.  




Just because I live in Canada doesn't mean I am a socialist.  Just like you living in American obviously doesn't mean you care about your freedoms.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Thrawn
lols, I refute your point so you freak out and go for the inductive fallacy and personal attack, nice.  




Just because I live in Canada doesn't mean I am a socialist.  Just like you living in American obviously doesn't mean you care about your freedoms.

Freak out? Hardly. I just get tired of people like you who live in socialist nanny states preaching to me about freedom. You are worthy of neither "freaking out" nor anger. Nor are you worthy of a "personal attack". I not only exercise my freedoms, but I guard them carefully.

[LePaul]

Awesome response to Thr-yawn