did anyone catch fred thompson on leno last night?

[storch]

I caught a bit of it.  I like this man and his no nonsense approach to things.  I believe he may well be the next POTUS.

all the best you mr thompson, thank you for your candidacy and for your service to our nation.

[lazs2]

I would feel good about voting for him...  I doubt that he has a chance of being in the running tho.  I will probly have to vote for the new york city con artist.

lazs

[FBBone]

Originally posted by lazs2
I would feel good about voting for him...  I doubt that he has a chance of being in the running tho.  I will probly have to vote for the new york city con artist.

lazs

Hillary??????


























..............oh, you meant Rudy.  Sorry, thats my natural reaction when I see "New York" and "con artist" in the same sentence.

GO Fred!

[Mickey1992]

I have never contributed $ to a campaign before Thompson came along, ever.  While I disagree with his stance on abortion and his desire for a constitutional amendment banning gay unions, I completely agree with the other 98% of his platform and his desire to limit the federal government.

[Dago]

Originally posted by lazs2
I doubt that he has a chance of being in the running tho.
lazs

Have to disagree with you there, this man has been running #2 in the polls without even declaring or announcing.  I think when his campaign really gets running, he will be the GOP candidate.

Surprised you would voice your choice for Guilliani given his strong opposition to gun ownership.  He is no friend of gun owners.

[moot]

I'm out of the loop on Thompson's bullet points.. Thomson/Paul - would that fly?

[Rolex]

"He is no friend of gun owners."

Either is Fred Thompson. He's just another guy telling whomever is listening at the moment what they want to hear.

Thompson voted in favor of the Lautenberg Domestic Confiscation Gun Ban that disarms gun owners for small (misdemeanor) offenses in the home — “offenses” as slight as spanking a child or grabbing a spouse. This lifetime ban, in certain cases, can even be imposed without a trial by jury. It is also retroactive, so it does not matter if the offense occurred 20 years ago.

Thompson voted in favor of  the 1996 Terrorism bill that:
- authorized a $40 million pay increase for the BATF (through the Treasury Department)
- potentially punished gun dealers (and individuals) for selling ammunition to someone they should have known would commit a violent crime
- federalized many state crimes, thus tremendously increasing the scope and jurisdiction of the BATF
- restricted the right of habeas corpus in such a way as to severely damage the ability of the courts to rescue honest gun owners who are unjustly incarcerated, allowing the government to use “secret evidence” against certain individuals
- removed protections against wiretapping wireless data and required banks to freeze the assets of domestic groups in certain situations.

[Dago]

Originally posted by Rolex
"He is no friend of gun owners."

Either is Fred Thompson. He's just another guy telling whomever is listening at the moment what they want to hear.

Thompson voted in favor of the Lautenberg Domestic Confiscation Gun Ban that disarms gun owners for small (misdemeanor) offenses in the home — “offenses” as slight as spanking a child or grabbing a spouse. This lifetime ban, in certain cases, can even be imposed without a trial by jury. It is also retroactive, so it does not matter if the offense occurred 20 years ago.

Thompson voted in favor of  the 1996 Terrorism bill that:
- authorized a $40 million pay increase for the BATF (through the Treasury Department)
- potentially punished gun dealers (and individuals) for selling ammunition to someone they should have known would commit a violent crime
- federalized many state crimes, thus tremendously increasing the scope and jurisdiction of the BATF
- restricted the right of habeas corpus in such a way as to severely damage the ability of the courts to rescue honest gun owners who are unjustly incarcerated, allowing the government to use “secret evidence” against certain individuals
- removed protections against wiretapping wireless data and required banks to freeze the assets of domestic groups in certain situations.

Maybe you want to tell more of the story, not just one little bit?

Fred Thompson quotes and votes:

Allowing concealed carry could have limited VA Tech massacre
How is it that one man with two handguns could reload time & time again, and go from classroom to classroom on the Virginia Tech campus without being stopped. Much of the answer can be found in policies put in place by the university itself.

Virginia allows citizens with training and legal permits to carry concealed weapons. That means that Virginians regularly sit in movie theaters and eat in restaurants among armed citizens.

The statistics are clear. Communities that recognize and grant Second Amendment rights to responsible adults have a significantly lower incidence of violent crime than those that do not. Incarcerated criminals tell criminologists that they consider local gun laws when they decide what sort of crime they will commit, and where they will do so.

But Virginia Tech administrators overrode Virginia state law and threatened to expel or fire anybody who brings a weapon onto campus. Those "Gun-free Zone" signs don't mean much to the sort of man who murdered 32 people.

Source: Thompson's blog on ABCradio.com, "Signs of Intelligence?" Apr 19, 2007

Voted NO on background checks at gun shows.
Require background checks on all firearm sales at gun shows.
Status: Amdt Agreed to Y)50; N)50; VP decided YES
Reference: Lautenberg Amdt #362; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-134 on May 20, 1999

Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations.
The Hatch amdt would increase mandatory penalties for the illegal transfer or use of firearms, fund additional drug case prosecutors, and require background check on purchasers at gun shows. [A YES vote supports stricter penalties].
Status: Amdt Agreed to Y)48; N)47; NV)5
Reference: Hatch Amendment #344; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-118 on May 14, 1999

Voted YES on loosening license & background checks at gun shows.
Vote to table or kill a motion to require that all gun sales at gun shows be completed by federally licensed gun dealers. Also requires background checks to be completed on buyers and requires gun show promoters to register with the Treasury.
Reference: Bill S.254 ; vote number 1999-111 on May 11, 1999

Voted YES on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks.
Vote to table [kill] an amendment to make it unlawful for gun dealers to sell handguns without providing trigger locks. Violation of the law would result in civil penalties, such as suspension or revocation of the dealer's license, or a fine.

[moot]

I remembered there were some stiff spoilers like that, but couldn't recall the specifics.. those're definitely not promising.
How can Paul be the only one to have so much integrity?

[Rolex]

I think it points out Thompson's lack of a clear position, which goes back to my original point about playing coy with his audience.

Ron Paul is neither an actor; nor a politician?

[moot]

Rings true with his saying he wants to be president for all the things we won't do (or something like that).

[soda72]

Guilliani/Thompson   2008

[moot]

What?   Giuliani?

[storch]

Originally posted by Rolex
I think it points out Thompson's lack of a clear position, which goes back to my original point about playing coy with his audience.

Ron Paul is neither an actor; nor a politician?

hmmm now you have given me pause.

[Dago]

Originally posted by soda72
Guilliani/Thompson   2008

No way should anyone vote for Guilliani.

It might be worth remembering that when he was mayor of New York, he advocated licensing for gun owners, avidly supported federal gun control measures such as the Brady Law and the "assault weapon" ban, blamed lax gun laws in other states for violent crime in New York City, and participated in litigation that aimed to impose national restrictions on the gun industry.

Guilliani is no friend of the honest law abing gun owner.

BTW, Lazs, is Kalifornia really getting ready to ban lead bullets?