did anyone catch fred thompson on leno last night?

[AKIron]

From what I read it seems that McCain and Guiliani are the top two contenders for the nomination but I think that will change with Thompson and Romney being the top two. Not sure how I feel about Thompson but I'd feel better about voting for Romney than I did for Bush.

[lazs2]

I will feel a lot better voting for romney or fred that I would about voting for rudy...  I do not trust anyone from new york city.

The crop of democrats is hopeless tho...  worse than last time and the time before if that is possible.   They have given up all pretense and are letting their liberal socialist light shine.

I think a lot of democrats would be relieved that they didn't have to vote for hillary or osamabama if fred or romney were the the republicans in the race... I think that rudy is just too new york for anyone.   he would be easy to hate.

lazs

[bj229r]

Originally posted by Dago
No way should anyone vote for Guilliani.

It might be worth remembering that when he was mayor of New York, he advocated licensing for gun owners, avidly supported federal gun control measures such as the Brady Law and the "assault weapon" ban, blamed lax gun laws in other states for violent crime in New York City, and participated in litigation that aimed to impose national restrictions on the gun industry.

Guilliani is no friend of the honest law abing gun owner.

BTW, Lazs, is Kalifornia really getting ready to ban lead bullets?

I'd much rather the GOP lose the presidency than have yet another conservative pretender further dismantle Reagan's principles---Not sure what Bush is, but he isn't a conservative, nor was his father, nor is Rudy....even McCain voted AGAINST the Bush tax-cut budget a few years ago....Romney seems a stuffed shirt to me. Quite like Duncan Hunter, but he has no national recognition. $#$$^ Rudy would destroy any semblance of what Reagan started. We would have a choice of Liberal Hillary, or slightly-right-of-liberal-Rudy.....Thompson SEEMS like a good candidate, but Bush seemed that way as well.....sigh

[Speed55]

I'm still hoping Duncan Hunter can pull it through.

[lazs2]

by... how would losing and getting the worst possible leader help us?

lazs

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by lazs2
by... how would losing and getting the worst possible leader help us?

lazs

Just like with alcoholism, sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you wake up and begin to heal.

or so goes the theory.

[uberhun]

Ron Paul even though a little eccentric and aloof in a weird kind of way. I feel he has the country's best interest's at heart. Fred Thompson??? Please. Giulliani ahh........NO. Romney......Whatever dude? Mc cain Great Patriot but a hot head, he would push the button faster then Giulliani. "They said what"? "Nuke em"! It will be interesting to see how these independent straw polls shake out. Primaries are coming I will be registering Republican. I also feel that this is our last oppertunity to save this country from a socialist future! !

[soda72]

I think Rudy has proven himself already to be a good leader whether you consider him a in-the-closet socialist or a crook.  Even if you disregard what he went through during 9/11,  his record alone in New York is impressive and speaks for itself.  Not one canidate currently running Democrat or Republican can claim such success while in polical office.

[AKIron]

Regarding illegal immigration the candidates seemed to range from Giuliani welcoming them to Tancredo ready to kick them all out. I was surprised to hear Romney speak the obvious truth that the only real way to end the massive illegal immigration problem is to attack the magnet that draws them, employment. I had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't our own lazs up there.

[Flatbar]

Originally posted by soda72
I think Rudy has proven himself already to be a good leader whether you consider him a in-the-closet socialist or a crook.  Even if you disregard what he went through during 9/11,  his record alone in New York is impressive and speaks for itself.  Not one canidate currently running Democrat or Republican can claim such success while in polical office.

The question is, whether the majority of Repubs will agree with his view on illegal immigration. Something tells me he'll be changing his stance once he realizes that he can't win the 'minutemen lovers' with a position on illegal immigration like this....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070907/ap_on_el_pr/giuliani_immigration

Giuliani has too many positions contrary to the hyperbolic and jingoistic mantra of the 'conseritive family values' voter. IMO.

[moot]

Originally posted by AKIron
attack the magnet that draws them, employment.  

[AKIron]

Originally posted by moot

You know what I mean.

[john9001]

Originally posted by Flatbar

Giuliani has too many positions contrary to the hyperbolic and jingoistic mantra of the 'conseritive family values' voter. IMO.

flatbar like sheriff bart.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Freak out? Hardly. I just get tired of people like you who live in socialist nanny states preaching to me about freedom. You are worthy of neither "freaking out" nor anger. Nor are you worthy of a "personal attack". I not only exercise my freedoms, but I guard them carefully.

Just because you exercise some freedoms, doesn't mean you aren' t losing and have lost others.  And if you guard some, you are still losing and have lost others.  There is only one candidate that has demonstrated and who's main platform is to give you those rights back.  He's the only guy with whom you have a chance of getting them back.  If freedom is so paramount to you, then what is the decision here?

[moot]

Cut down the immigration problem at its source? What about profits, lost fraudulent votes and healthcare burdens?
The illegal portion of the population is a vital part of the country and cannot be done without!