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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2007, 09:09:10 AM »
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And I bet you think Hillary has a good National health care plan too.

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Actually, I am a moderate... not too far to the right... not too far to the left.

I shudder to think if this was a one party country.

Hillary? ...just another politician.

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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2007, 09:17:35 AM »
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on my home computer I have an image of the FIRST plane about to hit,,That's a rare photo.

 to lose we've lost.


If you could post it I would be very grateful.

A dear friend of many years from work was on-board that plane.
I miss him as many others do... he left a wife and three children.

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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2007, 09:27:23 AM »
Please do not let HATE run rampant here.

Not all Muslims are to blame.

There are ultra-extremists everywhere....we have them here.  

Remember when those Omish kids were murdered and those wack-jobs wanted to protest the funeral?  Remember Oklahoma City?



"A house divided against itself cannot stand"
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Stand UNITED!

Stay FOCUSED....track down and punish those RESPONSIBLE.

DO NOT LEAVE until the JOB is DONE!


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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2007, 09:46:09 AM »
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After 9/11, Bush said we will not let them change our way of life...

hummm...

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Believe it or not, Bush did not attack the towers, the Pentagon or put one flight into the ground.
They haven`t changed our way of life , but they changed our lives forever.
The act also woke up a few to the fact that "Yes Virginia. It can happen here and will again if not fought against".
Others prefer to stick their head in the ground or up their........well in dark places and try to pawn the blame upon those who had no hand in it.
The fight will be long and hard. At least we better hope it is.
There is no touchy/feely, negoiating or any other of the limp wristed theories to deal with these folks. They only want one thing. Death to the infidels.


Ya know what is interesting to me is... I stated no point of view or judgements, pro or con, about the president :)
Did the American way of life change? I think so...

I believe in walking softly and carrying a BIG STICK. :aok

Isn't war an extention of diplomacy?
Don't the two go hand in hand?

I am all for a strong military and effective diplomacy.

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« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2007, 10:17:56 AM »
I personally think Islamists are as much victims as the world at large.
They are human beings who have been misguided and... brainwashed.

I find fault with Islam itself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wPglHZQf-0

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Please do not let HATE run rampant here.

Not all Muslims are to blame.

There are ultra-extremists everywhere....we have them here.  

Remember when those Omish kids were murdered and those wack-jobs wanted to protest the funeral?  Remember Oklahoma City?



"A house divided against itself cannot stand"
Abraham Lincoln

Stand UNITED!

Stay FOCUSED....track down and punish those RESPONSIBLE.

DO NOT LEAVE until the JOB is DONE!


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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2007, 10:33:08 AM »
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OK...

I have had this thought for a while now, never posted it.

If you could design a lethal contagious virus that had -- say about a 30 day dormant period, and anybody who ate pork was immune, and let it go in Mecca during the Hajj...

Naw forget I ever said that...


Then you would be worse than Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein combined.

Killing millions of people just for revenge would be insulting the memory of those who died.

It is also insulting to the United States, it's people and everything they stand for.

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« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2007, 10:36:00 AM »
Here is a link to one of the most impressive sites that came up after 9-11. I look at it once in a while, not too often as it's incredibly powerful. I'll always have Enya's song associated with this clip.

http://attacked911.tripod.com/

It's a 7 meg load so it will take a while if you are on dial up.

to those who responded to the attack and sacrificed their lives in the hopes of saving others.

to those in harms way, may they come back home safe.



Thrawn,

I don't know what your problem is other than you enjoy responding with taunting posts. I think you should understand your "efforts" in the thread are about as welcome and thoughtful as the phelp's church wackjobs at a soldiers funeral. It's about as predictable as well. Sometime I hope you learn to pass on tossing out the political jabs at really inappropriate times. This is one where you should pass and just simply STFU.

Folks are responding emotionally and what they say in those cases may not be the best thing in the world, yet you are not the guardian of propriety or even manners. Learn to let it go sometime.
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« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2007, 12:24:41 PM »
Thank you Mav.

<<<>>> SIR

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« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2007, 12:29:09 PM »
I don't know about all this wistful giving 's and Godspeed's...oh and Never Forgets.

What happened to all the bellybutton kicking we were supposed to be doing?  Is anyone angry anymore or are we all just impotently wringing our hands?

Why do people keep creating and posting pictures of crying eagles?  Where are the pictures of the ****ing pissed off eagles ripping the head off of some terrorist?
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« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2007, 12:57:33 PM »
Mav, Thanks that's the best one ever in my opinion.  

I posted this on another board in a discussion about where you were that day and how it's changed you since.

"Apologies if this post is very long.

At that time I had a job I called 'my high paying hobby' I absolutely loved it and was always at work by 7:00 am. I didn't, at that time, listen to the radio at work so, when the rest of the office workers started showing up one of them said that a plane had crashed into the WTC. 'Stupid small plane pilot' I thought. A few minutes later somebody else said that another plane had hit the other tower.

My heart stopped and my blood ran cold. I knew right then and there that it was a terrorist attack. We spent the rest of the morning huddled around the radios listening to the reports.

I lived 5 miles from my office so, at 11:00 pm I went to the grocery store, bought about $200 worth of water, canned goods, etc., thinking that the next logical step could be a chemical or biological attack and Dallas / Fort Worth is a pretty decent target as well. Went home and watched about an hour and a half of the coverage and went back to work honestly angry, sad, and frustrated, that our employers demanded we stay for the whole day. My opinion of them changed dramatically that day.

I'll be honest that I was amazed at the number of calls that I had that afternoon from people who were completely unaware of what was going on and were shocked when I told them to turn on their radios. By 2:00 CST our phones had stopped ringing. I left early, picked up the squid from school, and went home to watch the coverage.

I'll never forget how surreal it was for the next week or so not seeing a plane in the air other than military and the sick sadness I felt in my heart for the families and children of the victims whose daddies and mommys went to work like any normal day and never came home.

9/11 changed me a lot. Prior to that day I was a recluse. My life consisted of working and rasing my kid. I never went out, never pursued dating, wasn't a part of any internet 'community'.

I started reaching out to people to get to know them and made a lot of friends. I also make it a point to tell everybody I love them as I leave for the day because you never really know what can happen.

Thankfully through the changes that I made after that day I've got a wife, four wonderful kids, and good friends, that fulfill me and make me happy. I can almost guarantee that wouldn't have happened for me prior to."

I don't have the answer to our problems.  It's very convienant to say 'let's just kill them all' but genocide isn't the answer in my opinion.  

I'm proud of our servicemen and wish I could turn the clock back 10 years and join them.  I'd happily put my life on the line to meet an enemy on the field of battle and stop them from ever harming another innocent person in this country or any other.

The enemy we face chooses tactics of cowardice and terror as opposed to meeting our forces strength on strength.  Let's face it they know they'd lose.

Until the world as a whole decides that this type of political expression is unacceptable in civilized society I fear we will forever be to deeply involved in this quagmire losing people needlessly and having innocent people die to collateral damage.  

Conspiracy theorists I'm sorry but I just don't see how the current administration that is portrayed as full of bumblers and fools is smart enough to orchestrate something like this.  They're either incredibly bright and have you all fooled by the dumb act or they're incredibly stupid and just let it happen by happenstance.  I choose to think that there's a lot we don't know because, at this time, we don't need to know.

We are at war in case people have forgotten and, while I rarely use Wikipedia as a reference the following link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_home_front_during_World_War_II is a good point of reference.  We civilians do not have the daily inconvienances that the average citizen had during those awful years.

Today I woke up, took a long shower, put gas in my car, had a good sandwich for lunch, and I'm working a decent job that has nothing to do with winning this war.

Maybe we, as a citizenry, need a little bit stronger day to day reminder of what's really going on and why.  

I have noticed that there haven't been any more attacks on our soil since all of this began and it is my belief that it's due to the efforts of some good men and women who really care and do try to make a difference.
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« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2007, 01:07:12 PM »
<-- Is shrinking into his canister ready for the flaming.

I seriously think we should forget to some extent. Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and a high percentage of Muslims thoroughly enjoy the fact that this happened to us. Remembering in my opinion is giving them a pat on the back saying, "Way to go, remember what you guys did here? Brilliant idea!"

Naturally nobody will ever be able to fully forget, and I'm not saying they have to. All I'm implying is to stop making a big deal about it. One can not change the past, we should focus on changing the future. Look to prevent further incidences and continental clashes.

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« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2007, 04:26:36 PM »
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Thrawn,

I don't know what your problem is other than you enjoy responding with taunting posts. I think you should understand your "efforts" in the thread are about as welcome and thoughtful as the phelp's church wackjobs at a soldiers funeral. It's about as predictable as well. Sometime I hope you learn to pass on tossing out the political jabs at really inappropriate times. This is one where you should pass and just simply STFU.

Folks are responding emotionally and what they say in those cases may not be the best thing in the world, yet you are not the guardian of propriety or even manners. Learn to let it go sometime. [/B]


Look, if we're saying Shut The Füçk Up to anyone, it should be to the hate-filled bastard who suggested that we wipe out everyone who subscribed to any number of variants of a religious belief.

Sorry, days of mourning are not free passes to stir up hate. It's not the Canuck who's insulted our country, but those who, even in jest, suggest that committing even bigger atrocities will solve anything.

Look, we had the sympathy of the world, including the Islamic world -- after all, Christians and Jews weren't the only ones slaughtered by these nutjobs, nor do members of non-Muslim religions exclusively compose their targets. Somehow, through a masterful display of political cunning, we screwed it up. We were wounded deeply, but at the same time we were handed the greatest chance to improve the world for everybody. And it all got buried, not even in partisan politics, but in squabbles among advisers. That's a national tragedy, and one that doesn't cut across religious or political lines. The only unity we have left is a negative one -- we stand together in recognizing how petty personal squabbles ruined our response.

So, yes, I'm responding emotionally, and I'm saying that you can have your crying-eagle fest all you want, but the moment you turn that into an opportunity to attack a religion whose members include millions of honest Americans, you cross the line, MF. This day belongs to all Americans, not just those who want to indiscriminately kill men, women and children on pilgrimages.

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« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2007, 04:31:46 PM »
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Thrawn,

I don't know what your problem is other than you enjoy responding with taunting posts. I think you should understand your "efforts" in the thread are about as welcome and thoughtful as the phelp's church wackjobs at a soldiers funeral. It's about as predictable as well. Sometime I hope you learn to pass on tossing out the political jabs at really inappropriate times. This is one where you should pass and just simply STFU.

Folks are responding emotionally and what they say in those cases may not be the best thing in the world, yet you are not the guardian of propriety or even manners. Learn to let it go sometime.


I understand where you are coming from Maverick, and appreciate the more or less reasonably stated response to my posts.  But I totally disagree that it's not the time to post such thing.  Alot of people in this thread have obviously forgotten many things.  That such unrestrained lashing out enable the Bush administration to switch targets from Osama to Saddam for one.  Such ridiculously nationalistic glurging seems nothing like emotional self-indulgence who's main purpose is to ride the rush.  I doesn't help people "not forget", nor does it serve a useful purpose.

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« Reply #43 on: September 11, 2007, 04:57:37 PM »
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"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."


Thats the way *******, take a good and touching thread and make a really stupid  anti-Bush comment.  You really are a low class jerk.
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« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2007, 05:00:25 PM »
Well, Thrawn, all I can say is up until your first post, the only thing to be found in here were 's and personal recollections of the day.

I don't see anything wrong with that, and I don't understand why we're supposed to attach the line "but of course we screwed everything up" to it.  Today's not really about second guessing ourselves, it's about remembering those who lost their lives that September day.

If you want to make your sort of comments, may I suggest waiting until March?
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