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Offline LCPD23

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Solution to hoing
« on: September 11, 2007, 08:03:12 PM »
I was wondering if there would be anyway that when somebody hoes another person that both planes would go down and neither one would be rewarded a kill. I think if that was done then that would force alot of ppl to stop hoing and dogfight like it should be done. I don't think it is right for there to be a head on collision and one plane go down and the other get the kill. In real life if two planes collide both would go down so lets make it like that. I am sure it would force all of these lil ppl who can't dogfight to learn how to. If anyone would like this to happen please leave comments on it. Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 08:20:18 PM »
<== HO's just to make people cry
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 08:32:29 PM »
There really is no need to try to stop the HOing, just dodge it. Head-ons are part of every dogfight, and many times are what starts the fight. Yes there are people out there in the AH world who HO, run away and get some distance just to turn around to HO again, but that's where the "dodge the HO" comes in. No one ever said that if you are are going in head-on with an enemy that you HAVE to HO them. All you have to do is dodge them, don't try and HO. If you want then go ahead an do it, but if you don't want to HO or feel you won't win the Head-on then DON'T! Turn left or right at the right time, roll, split-s, do anything. There are more than one move to make when going in on a HO.
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Re: Solution to hoing
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 08:53:07 PM »
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In real life if two planes collide both would go down so lets make it like that


Like I said in that other thread:

That would practically mean: Someone flying towards you, you skillfully dodge him, he passes you with a distance of 100yds .. and suddenly you go "boom" because of a collsion that never happened on your computer at all. Only on his.

That way intentional rams would finally always work

You don't want that, don't you?
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2007, 09:11:58 PM »
So is this officially a double-whine?  Or is he actually equating HOs with collisions?
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 09:21:25 PM »
One on one the HO should not be an issue, it's easy to dodge most of the time.  Only time I have a problem with it is when there is only one of you and several of them, and every one of them pushes the HO.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 10:14:14 PM »
Nope he is right, you can't avoid a HO, your irreversably locked in, your controls freeze and lack magnets your planes will be sucked into one another.  It never happened in real life, dog fights start and finish with one plane behind the other always.  Good god people we have to do something about this we will all die to the dreaded LA-7 in a HO and it is the only plane imune to it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 10:22:15 PM »
Theres an old saying out there, and it never fails to fix this problem and that is it takes 2 planes to HO.

Honestly there very easy to dodge. One of my favorite ways is to go straight in till about 700-600 yrds, pull up then do a Split-S onto there tail. Then again I fly a Zero and everyone loves to try and HO them for some reason. :D
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2007, 11:22:44 PM »
I gave up avoiding them, dodge one and his buddy is there waiting doing it to. Now i just learn to fly planes with big guns so I will always win.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2007, 11:25:06 PM »
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Originally posted by Nimrod45
Nope he is right, you can't avoid a HO, your irreversably locked in, your controls freeze and lack magnets your planes will be sucked into one another.  It never happened in real life, dog fights start and finish with one plane behind the other always.  Good god people we have to do something about this we will all die to the dreaded LA-7 in a HO and it is the only plane imune to it.



Wait. This really confused me. Nimrod weren't you the one that agreeded with me in the other thread that you don't have to HO every time? or are you just being sarcastic about this?
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2007, 11:26:28 PM »
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Wait. This really confused me. Nimrod weren't you the one that agreeded with me in the other thread that you don't have to HO every time? or are you just being sarcastic about this?


Thats sarcasum if I've ever seen it. :aok
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2007, 12:03:56 AM »
Don't be a HO, Pimp instead. :D
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2007, 06:56:18 AM »
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Thats sarcasum if I've ever seen it. :aok


That's what I thought but the missing smileys to show expression messed me up :) ;)
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2007, 07:30:02 AM »
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Theres an old saying out there, and it never fails to fix this problem and that is it takes 2 planes to HO.

Honestly there very easy to dodge. One of my favorite ways is to go straight in till about 700-600 yrds, pull up then do a Split-S onto there tail. Then again I fly a Zero and everyone loves to try and HO them for some reason. :D
:aok

Works pretty good in a Spit Mark 8 also.  My first tour it was a collision or two a night.  I might have Ho'd others myself (apologies to all) but I did not know at the time that it is counter-productive.  After I began adjusting my tactics, collisions have virtually dissappeared.  Someone whining about being HO'd is someone who failed to properly manage the merge.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2007, 08:05:03 AM »
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That's what I thought but the missing smileys to show expression messed me up :) ;)


Yep Latrobe, it was sarcasm, I don't know how to add smily faces to my post.
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