163 should cost more than 262s to make them more rare

[OOZ662]

Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
and with the deathstar guns u are carrying, unlees u come up against anything but a experienced and ace pilot, u will probly kill them if your gunnery is the least bit accurate.

All it takes is for someone to attack like the Germans did; 3,9,12; NOT low 6.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by bj229r
Has anyone noticed how incredibly agile 163's are on deck at low speed? REALLY hard to shake the salamanders, esp. if there are friendlies about

I use them in that role pretty often.  They really are quite nimble furballers.

Low throttle to get to the fight, almost 0 throttle while fighting, then a hard climb and glide home can get you 3 sectors out with time to fight and rtb to the 163 base.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by WaRLoCkL
Why does everyone want to make things EASIER in this game, bombing already takes almost no skill, and with the deathstar guns u are carrying, unlees u come up against anything but a experienced and ace pilot, u will probly kill them if your gunnery is the least bit accurate.

163s are there for a reason, to help a country defend what it has left and try to push thier line back forward.

It is designed that the farther u push towards the enemy HQ the harder things get, same thing in real life. U think if there was a war on USA soil that the closer they pushed toward washington DC or any other large base that the defenses wouldnt get harder?

Just learn how to kill 163s in bombers, then u will be lauphing at them;)

                          Here I was thinking fighter plane take almost no skill, "course Im to polite to say such a thing".

                          Why is that that some fighter sticks think bombers take no skill? Is it because we dont chase each others tails around in furballs all night? I bet most guys who say this bomb very little, if at all, and when they do they take Lancs up to 4,000' and bomb a sector away.

                       Your never going to laugh at a guy like Lusche in a 163. You might get lucky and shoot him down but you'll never laugh at him. They didnt laugh at them in '44 either.

                      Who was saying they wanted things "easier" anyways? Vis-a-Vis fighters?? All I want is for the strats to actually mean somthing and get rid of the dar bars in the sectors without targets in them.

<------------- skill'less bomber stick:(

[MORAY37]

PROBLEM:

One base of 163 use...to defend the HQ.

Bomber jocks whine cuz they take 45 minutes just to get to 20-25K and another 45 to get to HQ.....and it all goes to crap in 3 minutes.



SOLUTION:

Don't spend an hour and a half flying after points you think are easy.

 Or, learn how to shoot those guns.  

Either, or.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by MORAY37
PROBLEM:

One base of 163 use...to defend the HQ.

Bomber jocks whine cuz they take 45 minutes just to get to 20-25K and another 45 to get to HQ.....and it all goes to crap in 3 minutes.



SOLUTION:

Don't spend an hour and a half flying after points you think are easy.

 Or, learn how to shoot those guns.  

Either, or.

                              Maybe I missed something but whos whining? There are some notorious whiners among fighter sticks when we shoot them down with our bombers. They snivel and cry about our 260 mph machines being death stars and act as if the guns shoot themselves.

                             Waaaa, waaaaa, waaaa.

[MORAY37]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
Maybe I missed something but whos whining? There are some notorious whiners among fighter sticks when we shoot them down with our bombers. They snivel and cry about our 260 mph machines being death stars and act as if the guns shoot themselves.

                             Waaaa, waaaaa, waaaa.

Lol... difference is, I'm not whining.  I don't mine points at HQ either.  Everything that is novel in this game, idiots try to take out.

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by MORAY37
Lol... difference is, I'm not whining.  I don't mine points at HQ either.  Everything that is novel in this game, idiots try to take out.

                        I still dont understand what your saying. Im in a bomber squad, the 484'th, and we never flew against HQ, nor do we whine if we get shot down. In fact we shoot down fighters all the time. Nor have I ever heard another real bomber stick do so. Nor do we care about points.

                      Fighters have it easy. If they get hit the slightest bit they can run to the nearest base and  score their kills. Which they do even if slightly damaged. They can land their kills, jump right into another brand new fighter, and off they go after the bombers again.

                   A bomber is only a death star if your stupid enough to climb up its 6 at or near the same altitude. Even then we have only so many bullets and are often far behind enemy lines.

[MjTalon]

Originally posted by Rich46yo
You cant just whistle up fighter escorts. How many people in the MA are going to agree to fly a fighter for an hour and 1/2 on your tail while you climb to 20,000' and chug away to a strat far behind enemy lines?

            From what i can see, in the MA, this kind of stuff never happens. Ive never seen such an organized war against strats. Usually Im the only one bombing them, or, very few others. I know cause I check them and watch them throughout game play.

         The bottom line is nobody much cares about strats, including AH. I bomb them very little now, unless they are close.

       I have no problem running against uber fighters. If you go that deep into enemy territory you should expect them, and, expect a short and exciting life. All I ask is if we do actually get thru to the strat make the bombing of it meaningful to game play. That and get rid of dar bars in empty sectors. As it is you can watch the slow progression of dar bars, and see everything that lights up near the bombers, finish your latest novel, cut the grass, and jump into you rocketship easily figuring out where the bombers are. All these dar bars force sticks to play in 10% of the map cause it makes no sense to fly outside of heavily traveled corridors.

negatory... my squad AA does HQ raid's quite frequently now, it's massive fun shooting down 163s and numerous other aircraft

[Rich46yo]

Originally posted by MjTalon
negatory... my squad AA does HQ raid's quite frequently now, it's massive fun shooting down 163s and numerous other aircraft

                       I meant I myself have never flown them with my squad. No doubt its great fun, I have just never done it. And I'll bet none of your sticks whine if they get shot down either.

                      Theres a difference between the kinda guy who flys bombers in a squad and someone who jumps into an occasional Lanc and bombs an airfield from 2,000'. The problem in this thread is a few have deliberately stereotyped bomber sticks. I have met a few bomber sticks who are tremendously skilled in this game.