spys

[MajIssue]

How does an offshore mission that has no "dar bar" and is out of site of land get busted?

  Spys thats how.

   A player having more than one account or a "side switcher" that communicated with squaddies on his (or her) "real" team should not be tolerated as it causes real anger among players that follow norms of ethical behavior and fair play.
   During a "busted" mission yesterday I heard several good sticks say that they would not renew their subscriptions because of obvious spying by the Rooks. I was inclined toward the "turn about is fair play" solution of spying on the country that had done so to us, but didn't do it so that I wouldn't compromise my own integrity.
   We all need to police ourselves on this and on cheating in general or it will destroy this great game for all of us and drive away large numbers of pilots that make it a great game.

[Motherland]

How do you know there was spying? Maybe someone spotted you taking off, or maybe someone just happened to be flying through the general area? Or maybe someone popped above 200ft whatever the dar-bar level is?
Dont be so quick to accuse.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by MajIssue

  Spys thats how.

[SlapShot]

All it takes is 1 guy to bust the 500 ft above ground level to give up the "mission" ... and that is usually the case.

If you were "spied" upon ... griefers abound in AH in all sorts of shape and forms.

During a "busted" mission yesterday I heard several good sticks say that they would not renew their subscriptions because of obvious spying by the Rooks.

I doubt that ... also ... define "good stick".

[Bingolong]

Originally posted by MajIssue
How does an offshore mission that has no "dar bar" and is out of site of land get busted?

  Spys thats how.

   A player having more than one account or a "side switcher" that communicated with squaddies on his (or her) "real" team should not be tolerated as it causes real anger among players that follow norms of ethical behavior and fair play.
   During a "busted" mission yesterday I heard several good sticks say that they would not renew their subscriptions because of obvious spying by the Rooks. I was inclined toward the "turn about is fair play" solution of spying on the country that had done so to us, but didn't do it so that I wouldn't compromise my own integrity.
   We all need to police ourselves on this and on cheating in general or it will destroy this great game for all of us and drive away large numbers of pilots that make it a great game.

Its called... Type your buddies name in the Vox box and tell them. No need to spy.  Cross country communacations should not be allowed, period.
Now the 2 acct guy... well not much you can do about him. He pays twice as much as you

[Hornet33]

Who cares????? Read my sig.

[Guppy35]

It was me.....I confess.

I was sitting here with two computers bored out of my mind and started talking to myself.

it occured to me that I could at least productively talk to myself by logging on to Aces High with two accounts and spying.

That way I could tell myself something important, like where the enemy fleet was.

I was confused for a bit though as I couldn't quite explain to myself how it was the enemy since one of me was on that side.  

After pondering this for a few minutes, I flipped a coin and decided that one of me would have to be the enemy.

I then tied myself to a chair and tortured myself until I broke and let myself know where the enemy fleet was.

After that it was only a matter of working to get myself untied so I could break up the impending attack by my side against my side.

I hope this helps.

I won't ever do it again.....



I feel so ashamed:cry

[Bingolong]

Originally posted by Guppy35
It was me.....I confess.




I feel so ashamed:cry

As you should

[MajIssue]

1. The mission upped at a secure base far from any cons.
2. It was out of visual range of the shore when busted.
3. There was a friendly CV on the other side of the grid square (In between the main body and shore) also out of visual range of the mission.
4. ALL mission aircraft were below 200 ' MSL and beyond any shore based radar circles.
5. The aircraft that busted the mission flew directly through the CV radar coverage and corrected course toward the mission while beyond visual range TWICE.
AND
6. I personally encountered a pilot that was in the mission list later flying for the country that busted the mission.

My accusations are not baseless and this isn't the first time I've suspected spying. It is only the first time that spying has been so blatent and poorly executed.

[Shuffler]

[Chalenge]

Not too many days ago I busted a mission that flew near one of our Cvs. It was flashing and from the tower I could see a lot of dots in the distance. I determined their most likely target and upped from there and waited. Once the field started flashing I had plenty of help.

[Hornet33]

Originally posted by MajIssue
1. The mission upped at a secure base far from any cons.
2. It was out of visual range of the shore when busted.
3. There was a friendly CV on the other side of the grid square (In between the main body and shore) also out of visual range of the mission.
4. ALL mission aircraft were below 200 ' MSL and beyond any shore based radar circles.
5. The aircraft that busted the mission flew directly through the CV radar coverage and corrected course toward the mission while beyond visual range TWICE.
AND
6. I personally encountered a pilot that was in the mission list later flying for the country that busted the mission.

My accusations are not baseless and this isn't the first time I've suspected spying. It is only the first time that spying has been so blatent and poorly executed.

And????????? you want what to happen to this individual? That happens all the time when you post missions. If you put it out there don't expect secrecy. Someone sold your mission out. So what??? It happens. Quit whinning about it and move on already.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by MajIssue
1. The mission upped at a secure base far from any cons.
2. It was out of visual range of the shore when busted.
3. There was a friendly CV on the other side of the grid square (In between the main body and shore) also out of visual range of the mission.
4. ALL mission aircraft were below 200 ' MSL and beyond any shore based radar circles.
5. The aircraft that busted the mission flew directly through the CV radar coverage and corrected course toward the mission while beyond visual range TWICE.
AND
6. I personally encountered a pilot that was in the mission list later flying for the country that busted the mission.

My accusations are not baseless and this isn't the first time I've suspected spying. It is only the first time that spying has been so blatent and poorly executed.

So what if someone that was previously in your mission was flying for another country later on?  The guy probably got sick and tired of your constant whining and decided to switch.  

99.99999999% of the time, it's those in the mission that blow it by popping up too high for a second and showing on 'dar or they stray a little too close to an enemy CV which them makes it blink on the 'dar.   Nope, it sounds more like your complete and total incompetence that caused your mission to be blown and not a spy.  But your ego won't allow you to realize the truth so you start blaming someone for spying.  Sad, so very sad.



ack-ack

[Scca]

Ya, same thing happend to my squad the other night. NOE raid busted..

Makes taking a base deep behind nme lines even more fun when it works..

It can't be stopped, so why try.  A quick look at the roster will tell you (often) who the spys are.  ({thought balloon erupts above head}humm... 10 so and so's signed on, one of them is a nit, the other 9 are rooks....wonder what that's all about???

[BaldEagl]