Mistake costs dishwasher $59,000

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Tac
Les, you cant just take the money the man worked for (however illegally) based on that reasoning.

Like i said above, the gov. should just come up with a heavy fine charged to all illegal aliens that are deported. If they refuse to pay it then at that point either jail them or confiscate any assets they own in the US (thats what the gov. does if you dont pay your bills anyway!).

Sorry Tac, but you must have me confused with another poster.  I said the man earned his money through hard work and he should keep it.  I do not consider it illegal earnings to the degree some others attribute.  My reasoning is a strong solid man-to-man reasoning that he worked at a legal occupation and should be paid.  Tax whatever is due the government with a possible fine.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Concerning a deportation, the situation in Guatemala should be checked into before hand to make sure he won't be deported to his demise, which would be unconscionable.




Les

[Rino]

Kinda missing the whole "he shouldn't have been here to earn the $$$"
point, aren't we?  No tears from me for this guy either.  Don't do the crime,
don't need to worry about the time.

Btw, mistake???? HAHAHAHAHA..Gee Officer, I robbed that bank by mistake.

[Coshy]

Granted I'm no lawyer but I'm  sure somewhere there is a statute which prohibits making money from an illegal activity. This is probably geared more towards a criminal writing a book about his nefarious deeds, but wouldnt it apply to someone washing dishes while engaged in criminal activity (ie illegal immigrant)?

Just a random thought.

Time for math class.

52 weeks in a year x 40 workhours in a week = 2080

2080 x 5.50 = 11,440 in yearly wages

11,440 x 11 years = 125,840

125,840 - 59,000 = 66840

66840/11 = 6076

So he had $6000 to spend each year, roughly not counting any overtime, which I'm sure he had.

I'm going to call shennanagins. There is no way in the world that anyone can live (food, rent, clothes, electricity, etc, etc) on $6000 a year without either feeding at the trough that is our entitlement mentality gone astray, public welfare, or engaging in some additionial illegal activity.

11 years and doesn't speak english .... riiiiight. I work with guys that have been here for a few months and I've already taught them some basic english.

What would happen if a CITIZEN tried to get away with not claiming income? The IRS would be on him like white on rice.

Of all the things in this article this infuriates me the most:

"Zapeta said his goal in coming to the United States was to make enough money to buy land in his mountain village and build a home for his mother and sisters. He sent no money back to Guatemala over the years, he said, and planned to bring it all home at once."

What, our money is good enough for you but living in and contributing to the the country that essentialy GAVE you that money is too much to ask? I give a rats bellybutton about his altruistic intentions, which are probably phoney BS "feel sorry for me please" excuses.

I have absolutely no sympathy for worthless pieces of crap like this. If this country isnt good enough for you to stay in, LEGALLY, then stay the hell out. I'll buy him a one way ticket to whatever third world crap hole he came from and escort him to the plane if thats what it takes to get rid of a piece of garbage like this.

Further, what about all the employers? I thought it was a requirement that all employees fill out an I-9 and a W-4 form when they are hired? So not only is this piece of pondscum breaking our laws, so are the crooks who hired him. Where is the outrage about that???

Ok, I'm done.

[straffo]

"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free... "


what a joke.

[Coshy]

Originally posted by straffo
"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free... "


what a joke.

If they are coming to stay, and are doing so legally, and are going to contribute , then they are welcome to come live the American dream and enjoy all the freedoms we have.

[moot]

Originally posted by straffo
"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free of social responsibility... "

[LePaul]

Originally posted by straffo
"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free... "


what a joke.

There's LEGAL means to enter the country.  

But I know that falls on deaf ears these days.  People seem to find obeying the rules to be so inconvenient.  However some of us kooky, law-abiding folks just happen to beleive the law should be enforced and consequences  dished out.

My conscience has no problem throwing someone right on back into a war-torn country.  Our hospitality has been over-extended and abused for far too long.

[Xargos]

He got the money illegally, therefore he shouldn't get any of it.

Our borders should be closed until we can feed, house, clothe, give medical care and educate our own people.

It is not the responsibility of Americans to support the rest of the World.  Our generosity is being abused on so many levels.

[Delirium]

Originally posted by straffo
"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free... "


what a joke.

Ellis Island was the archway underneath that statement, where many came legally to 'be free'. While I feel some were forced to assimilate there, it did the US a great service and greatly increased our labor pool. (note- I am not at all in favor of deporting all illegal immigrants, it isn't feasible)

In France, they don't encourage anyone to assimilate and they have alot more social unrest, not only with their young but also with many of the foreigners within that country.

Speaking of poor huddled masses, I'm fairly certain the US donates more money to poor countries in regards to both straight monetary value and in relation to the GNP when compared to France.

[Dago]

Originally posted by straffo
"Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free... "


what a joke.

Nominated for the most stupid post of the year!

[straffo]

suce ta bite,merdeux.

[lazs2]

If he is a political refugee then he would have papers as such... The US does not accept guatamala as being a country that we need to give refugee status too..

He is just a criminal.

He never filed taxes.   By law...  he doesn't even have to if he makes under a certain amount but... he made far more than the minimum,

He is a criminal.

He never learned english in 11 years but saved 59k

He is a stupid and thrifty criminal.

He needs to be deported or imprisoned.   I would imagine, using IRS math that the interest on back taxes for 11 years would come to about $197,000 so he needs to pay all of that back or go to prison.  After he gets out... he needs to be deported.

Someone hired him.   someone hired him to screw the rest of us.

That person is a criminal.

I think that if the employer were given a couple of years in federal prison that it would do more tho to stop the problem.   How is it gonna solve much by simply throwing the illegal out?  

nope.. take the illegals money.. then throw him out... then arrest and imprison the employer..  

Do this a dozen times a week across the nation and put it lead story and in a year the problem of illegals will solve itself...  no fence even.

lazs

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by ROC
No sympathy at all.  Leave it to CNN to portray this guy as a victim.

Illegal Immigrant, Didn't pay taxes, whine whine cry me a river.

Always the Governments Fault, never the people who do this.

I could care less about how he feels about this country now, I feel Far Far Better knowing we can still find this stuff.

[megadud]

he shouldnt get the money. he shouldnt have even been in the country, he worked illegally to earn it. should drug dealers and launderers keep their money? take it and deport him.

word

[lazs2]

The best thing about taking his money and sending him home is that he will tell his sad story to all his friends thinking of coming here.   Much better for us than him going home with 59k and telling everyone how easy it is to break our laws.

Arresting the employers will make it more difficult for any illegal to get work.. they will go home and say there is no work.

pretty simple stuff really....you have to be a really fuzzy headed liberal to not see it.

lazs