Author Topic: Big Brother - 1984 - I'm leaving Britain...... (Read 1923 times)

Swoop · « **Reply #15 on:** October 01, 2007, 10:04:51 AM »

Re: the "I'm leaving" comment.

Who am I trying to kid?
Havn't actually found anywhere worth going to yet.

Tried Holland and while it's even easier to ignore officials over there than it is here, the indiginous population of the place is enough to drive anyone off.

When they start advertising for IT guys needed on the moon, I'm there.

cpxxx · « **Reply #16 on:** October 01, 2007, 10:37:40 AM »

Maybe you should come over here. The beer, food and weather is practically the same. You can watch British TV and read British newspapers. The speed limit is 75 miles an hour and on single track boreens with grass growing down the middle it's 50 MPH. Only the money is different. You wouldn't be alone. There is an amazing number of English living here these days. No one thinks of Brits as foreigners. Ok you still can't smoke in pubs but we have a long history of ignoring laws we don't like, specially those enacted by British rulers:D And they certainly wouldn't get away with bugging our phone calls. Although I can't think why they would want to.

The trouble with the English is that you are too law abiding. You enact a law and then enforce it. In most of the world we enact laws and then promptly ignore it unless it suits us.

I remember, years ago reading a comment by a British police chief in which he commented that he looked forward to the day when you could be tracked by camera from the moment you left your house. I laughed then but I'm not laughing now.

Stang · « **Reply #17 on:** October 01, 2007, 10:42:38 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
come here and move to a semi rural area... if you move to a big blue city they will fawn over your accent and try to imitate you and cry about how they are not enough like england..

LOL, so true.

Phaser11 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 01, 2007, 10:42:44 AM »

Canada!

Oh Canada, lets go drink some beer.

And yes it is!

SteveBailey · « **Reply #19 on:** October 01, 2007, 11:17:44 AM »

See Rules #4, #5, #7 (last warning)

mora · « **Reply #20 on:** October 01, 2007, 12:06:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Swoop
Re: the "I'm leaving" comment.

Who am I trying to kid?
Havn't actually found anywhere worth going to yet.

Tried Holland and while it's even easier to ignore officials over there than it is here, the indiginous population of the place is enough to drive anyone off.

When they start advertising for IT guys needed on the moon, I'm there.

I know what you mean. Personally I gave up long ago.. I don't care about this kind of crap anymore. I've stopped following news and politics. 95% of people support these things and there's nothing you can do about it. As long as I'm able to have a passport and go abroad I don't care. I'm lucky to have a well paying job from which I can take as much time of as I want any time I want... At least I can travel around and maybe find a place where I'd like to settle down. It certainly won't be in Europe. Same crap everywhere with different flavors.

So far I like the US the best, but it seems to be impossible legally. Also it seems to be going to the same direction aswell.

Maverick · « **Reply #21 on:** October 01, 2007, 12:46:59 PM »

It isn't necessarily that 95% of people like this kind of thing. All it takes is enough people who have given up for those who do have the willingness to have their will imposed on the apathetic.

Make a decision and act on it. Even doing nothing is a decision and is in effect tacit support for what ever the energetic are willing to push. If you had a chance to object and didn't do so, don't beeyotch about the outcome.

Saxman · « **Reply #22 on:** October 01, 2007, 01:01:10 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
listen in to make sure we don't say bad things about our government

Point of order: You DO realize that the the blatantly unconstitutional as established by a prior Supreme Court decision (came up under Ford's administration, I believe) that the President of the United States HAS NO AUTHORITY TO UNILATERALLY ORDER IT warrantless wiretapping was Dubya's personal baby, right? The Dems have been fighting that since it rolled out.

68Wooley · « **Reply #23 on:** October 01, 2007, 01:39:20 PM »

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Originally posted by mora
So far I like the US the best, but it seems to be impossible legally. Also it seems to be going to the same direction aswell.

There is he-haw difference between living in Europe and living in the US (or at least, living in the UK and living in the US). Same level of taxation, same level of government intrusion, same level of government bureaucracy, same level of government incompetence. I defy anyone who has actually lived in both (as opposed to having spent a two week holiday there) to claim otherwise.

The only real difference I've found is health care and the power of religious groups. Oh - and the weather's really nice.

As for anyone worried about government intrusion, I think if you ever found out the level of restrictions imposed on law enforcement over holding intelligence, you'd be shocked. This is an area I have some experience in.

mora · « **Reply #24 on:** October 01, 2007, 01:47:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Swoop
There was no revolution, no riots, no parades through Westminster with banners saying "save our smoke!", no, instead there was a petition. That was ignored.

Well at least you had a petition. I was amazed that even the smokers bent over. It's funny everytime I criticize our smoking ban the reply is "But you don't smoke!". It shows how people are programmed these days.

storch · « **Reply #25 on:** October 01, 2007, 01:54:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Saxman
Point of order: You DO realize that the the blatantly unconstitutional as established by a prior Supreme Court decision (came up under Ford's administration, I believe) that the President of the United States HAS NO AUTHORITY TO UNILATERALLY ORDER IT warrantless wiretapping was Dubya's personal baby, right? The Dems have been fighting that since it rolled out.

to their advantage. dubya's fast and loose playing with our civil rights have cost him a lot of support. I no longer consider myself republican and have registered as an independant.

McFarland · « **Reply #26 on:** October 01, 2007, 05:12:50 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
to their advantage. dubya's fast and loose playing with our civil rights have cost him a lot of support. I no longer consider myself republican and have registered as an independant.

Here here! Any political party gets bad after a while, which is why President Washington said they were bad. They split the country and make the government even worse by giving fewer choices.

Vulcan · « **Reply #27 on:** October 01, 2007, 06:03:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Angus
What about unregistered GSM numbers?
Or Skype? H2H? AH? OMG, the Ah BB!?!?!?!?!!

Thats the funny bit, the ability for those likely to be involved in illegal activities to avoid this surveillance system is extremely simple.

A simple VPN tunnel and take your pick of voip applications.

lazs2 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 02, 2007, 08:55:49 AM »

mora hit it.... "but you don't smoke"

the people who smoke will vote for more seatbelt enforcement.

everyone hates to see someone being free.. everyone wants to be free themselves in their mind but freedom scares the crap out of em. Making their own decisions scares the crap out of em.

I don't smoke but am horrified that a person can't allow people to smoke in the business that he owns.

I am disheartened when the people who I defend want to restrict me tho.

lazs

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #29 on:** October 02, 2007, 01:56:21 PM »

Seatbelts are for smart drivers. All I have to say.