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« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2007, 09:15:32 AM »
swoop... read it again.. you are a bright lad.   The "slavery is freedom" line is enough to make it a relevant political book for all time.

Ignorance is strength I am sure you will get if you look around... look at the schools where learning is not as important as feeling ... look at the news and the tv shows.

The book scared the crap out of us Americans when it came out but now... all we would be scared of is the "room" the rest seems perfectly acceptable to a lot of us now.

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« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2007, 09:26:20 AM »
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with GPS tied into them you know that is just down the road but I envision a time when the car itself will rat you out.  


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« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2007, 10:09:33 AM »
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Hate to bring bad news, but that future is now.
you don't say.  please expound that statement

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« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2007, 11:36:38 AM »
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you don't say.  please expound that statement


Read it and weep.  I think its just a matter of time before this becomes commonplace.

http://www.news.com/2100-1040-268747.html?legacy=cnet

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« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2007, 04:03:25 PM »
what a sad world my grandkids will inherit.

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« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2007, 04:24:09 PM »
I myself wonder if it will be here at that time, the way things are going now.

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« Reply #51 on: October 03, 2007, 05:15:02 PM »
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No, the peace is slavery bit is bollocks.


ok, I'll be serious.  

Freedom is not slavery, freedom means being free to starve, free to die of any one of a number of diseases, free to drink, smoke and eat myself into oblivion should I so wish.  And we are not free.

As for ignorance is strength.....what?


 

I'm going to assume you have never read "1984". That is the only explenation as to your level of ignorance about that quote.

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« Reply #52 on: October 03, 2007, 07:18:36 PM »
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Read it and weep.  I think its just a matter of time before this becomes commonplace.

http://www.news.com/2100-1040-268747.html?legacy=cnet


And this news is from 2001.

Six years is an eternity in technology advancement these days.

Imagine what they've got NOW.

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« Reply #53 on: October 03, 2007, 07:57:58 PM »
Cypher, I feel the need to retaliate with comments about ignorance of how to spell but instead I'm just going to point out that it was 20 years ago and if you're so bloody clever why don't you explain it to me.


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« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2007, 09:20:19 PM »
I'm glad I live where I do.  No crime to mention of, can leave the house and cars unlocked. Leave the Sons bike out front and it's always there in the morning. He rides his bike to school and no one needs to lock their bikes up.  Great schools here also.

If the dog gets loose, sooner or later he'll come home or a neighbor will call and give me his last location.  Most of the folks around here even knows the neighborhood dogs names.

BBQs galore here and everyone invites everyone.
Ducks and geese in the pond. Rabbits and deer pass thru the area often.

It took me awhile to get use to this place 12 years ago... the kindness kinda made me feel like they wanted something from me. But that was just because I lived in alotta bad spots and was always protective.  Then I realized it was just the kindness from the heart that made this place the way it is.

I'm proud to call this place Home.

There's no place like Home.

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« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2007, 05:24:05 PM »
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Cypher, I feel the need to retaliate with comments about ignorance of how to spell but instead I'm just going to point out that it was 20 years ago and if you're so bloody clever why don't you explain it to me.



Gladly. The quote i mentioned is from the book "1984". The OP mentioned Big Brother from the book. Big Brother was the leader in the story. The "Party's" slogan was "War is Peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is Strength." Big Brother was a tyrant. In that story people were arrested and killed for "THought Crime", or doing anything that could be seen as against the "Party". The "Party" wanted people to believe that everything about freedom is a lie.
      In short, my original post was simply adding upon the Big Brother comment.
      Also, my comment about "your level of ignorance" was not meant to bring your IQ into question. I said that because you seemed to have no idea what that quote meant.

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« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2007, 06:11:53 PM »
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I'm glad I live where I do.  No crime to mention of, can leave the house and cars unlocked. Leave the Sons bike out front and it's always there in the morning. He rides his bike to school and no one needs to lock their bikes up.  Great schools here also.

If the dog gets loose, sooner or later he'll come home or a neighbor will call and give me his last location.  Most of the folks around here even knows the neighborhood dogs names.

BBQs galore here and everyone invites everyone.
Ducks and geese in the pond. Rabbits and deer pass thru the area often.

It took me awhile to get use to this place 12 years ago... the kindness kinda made me feel like they wanted something from me. But that was just because I lived in alotta bad spots and was always protective.  Then I realized it was just the kindness from the heart that made this place the way it is.

I'm proud to call this place Home.

There's no place like Home.

:aok

Mac

I'd like to tell you where it is but who wants a bunch of N00Bs and Dweebs vulchin the Hood or spawn campin next to the picnic tables?

:D


But I live there too!
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« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2007, 06:18:04 PM »
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And suddenly they stopped us doing that for the sake of all the poor widdle non-smokers out there with their delicate lungs who are apparently too stupid to go sit in the non-smoking area.


No comment on the thread, but... I would like to point out that a smoking section in an establishment is like having a pissing section in a pool. :/
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« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2007, 06:25:05 PM »
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No comment on the thread, but... I would like to point out that a smoking section in an establishment is like having a pissing section in a pool. :/
Maybe, but shouldn't the owner have the right to decide what goes on inside his business?  If you don't like it, don't go in there.  There are plenty of other places to eat, drink, etc.

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« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2007, 08:57:30 PM »
I live in Britain.

I see no crime.

I see beautiful rolling fields from my bedroom window and a couple of valleys.

On a Sunday morning I hear the Church bells only 500 yards away. Most mornings I hear the cows in the field over yonder. The pub is a short walk away and serves real beer from local breweries.

There is a strong sense of community. The local primary school is highly rated. My kids maybe will one day go there.

I can cycle along trails in the woods to work and be there in 30 minutes.

If there is a God, then Britain is his country.

I like Britain. I won't be leaving anytime soon.
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