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Offline Cmustard

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« on: October 08, 2007, 12:07:40 AM »
People of aces high i am sick of everyone thinking hoing is a bad thing.In world war 2 pilots hoed,everybody hoed !Now in the content of the game the (ho) isnt bad intell someone colides .Other than that people need to stop whinning because the got shot dwn by a bad thing so called (ho) .Most caes are when someone hos something with cannon and they dont have cannon :cry .HOEN IS OK AS LONG AS (u dont colide);)
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2007, 12:11:50 AM »
HOing does not display any level of skill. Yet at the same time Whining about being HOed does not display skill either. I assume everyone is going to HO me so I do not approach enemies at an angle they can HO. If they HO then  I can avoid and have an advantage.

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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2007, 12:24:19 AM »
This is true hoeing does not show skill ,that being said if ur going head on with the person u cant turn right or hell turn and now hes on ur tail+u cant turn left or hell be on ur tail.So sometimes u have to ho ! and if u dont u have a huge disadvantage.:aok then i get to hear them whine on range :(
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2007, 12:29:03 AM »
Don't approach head on. Direct your nose about 20º left/right/below them and adjust your angle when they reach 1000yds. They will miss the HO and you're able to get an angle on them. I fly a P38 which is a big plane but use angles to make the P38 seem smaller than most single engine fighters. Only time I recieve/complain about HOs are when I'm fighting 3 or more cons and can't spend too much time concentrating on someone who may HO me.

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 12:35:05 AM »
i guess so i dont pay that much attention in it.When im fighting most people are loooking for a nice fight they want quick picks,So if they dont get there first pick they run .So by avoding ho when u turn around there 3 k thataway and run n out more.So when im in battle i stick to HO everyone so i dont ever get the disadvantage ,but when ya ho u need to no what ur hoen :)and i consider a ho clean as long as theres no colisions involved its a clean kill in my book:cool:
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 12:53:24 AM »
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i guess so i dont pay that much attention in it.When im fighting most people are loooking for a nice fight they want quick picks,So if they dont get there first pick they run .So by avoding ho when u turn around there 3 k thataway and run n out more.

If you HO on a pass you could have avoided, you may be taken out of the fight yourself, as well as the enemy. Its a pointless risk.
"So when im in battle i stick to HO everyone so i dont ever have to aim"
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2007, 12:57:03 AM »
I would rather have a good fight than get HO'ed on the first pass.
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2007, 01:04:54 AM »
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If you HO on a pass you could have avoided, you may be taken out of the fight yourself, as well as the enemy. Its a pointless risk.
It isn't pointless when you are trying to break up a CAP.  They have farther to fly to return to the fight than you do.  ;)



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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2007, 01:05:31 AM »
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People of aces high i am sick of everyone thinking hoing is a bad thing


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et·i·quette (ĕt'ĭ-kĕt', -kĭt):  The practices and forms prescribed by social convention or by authority.


If "everyone" has a negative opinion on something then there must be a social convention involved.  Actually "everyone" does not think HOing is a bad thing, but the majority do have an unfavorable opinion of it when used in certain circumstances.

So what you are saying is that you don't like etiquette of the AH community.  My reply is too bad.  You can take the time to learn the skills where a HO attempt is just one of many options of how to handle a merge, or you can rely on HO as a crutch and likely hear complaints about it from other players.  Your alternative of whining about everyone elses whines to changing their minds doesnt seem very realistic.

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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2007, 01:05:44 AM »
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It isn't pointless when you are trying to break up a CAP.  They have farther to fly to return to the fight than you do.  ;)



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Pretty much the only time I ho. That and when Im GV hunting and someone is stupid enough to ho my Il2, its darwinism. That doesnt happen that much anymore though, usually fly the Stuka... 2x 7.92s.. yah...

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2007, 01:06:36 AM »
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Don't approach head on.


Sometimes they are unavoidable--those are the extremely frustrating ones.

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2007, 01:17:59 AM »
I think everyone has there opinion about the mattter and were all pretty correct in my opinion. But im strickly talking about people that think hoeing is bad for instence someone will say (ya nice ho) A ho is a clean shot ather u win or u loose!As long as u colide ho's are perfectly fine no matter what people say about it because fact of matter is that ww2 pilots hoed ,everyone hoed in the war but my main topic from the beginning in typing this Topic was to tell people hoeing really isnt a bad thing!:D
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2007, 01:20:05 AM »
Yes there are many ho's that u cant get out of and when this occurs lets say u win 99% of the time u'll get a pm or someone whinning on 200 with a very stupid or silly remark of (nice ho dweeb) . Well i got news for everyone IT TAKES 2 TO HO!:lol
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2007, 01:21:46 AM »
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I think everyone has there opinion about the mattter and were all pretty correct in my opinion. But im strickly talking about people that think hoeing is bad for instence someone will say (ya nice ho) A ho is a clean shot ather u win or u loose!As long as u colide ho's are perfectly fine no matter what people say about it because fact of matter is that ww2 pilots hoed ,everyone hoed in the war but my main topic from the beginning in typing this Topic was to tell people hoeing really isnt a bad thing!:D

Ramming was a WWII tactic too. Does that validate ramming?

"Well i got news for everyone IT TAKES 2 TO HO!"
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2007, 01:27:03 AM »
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IT TAKES 2 TO HO!:lol


Where does this line of reasoning come from?  If I'm trying to duck the inevitable LA-7, Mossie, P-38, Spit, etc. HO shot, and they hit me despite my best efforts to avoid it, I'll get on 200 and call them out.  It takes only one to make a HO shot.  It takes two to Co-HO.