MOTOR TREND's December 2007 Issue

[Flatbar]

Originally posted by lazs2
yeah flatbar but it's pretty hard to run 190 mph or 11 second quarters legaly..  

lazs

Fixed

[lazs2]

sorry swoop but that looks like a cage to me..   you are just not quite as covered up as a good roadster.

My Healey has a fold down windshield so I don't even have to wear a helmet to get wind in my hair.   to me... your bike is a cage... by the time you get all your safety gear on and all... you are more insulated from your surroundings than a lot of cars out there.

lazs

[Swoop]

Originally posted by lazs2
you are more insulated from your surroundings than a lot of cars out there.
 

Which I'm very happy about considering how fast the damn thing is.

It ain't about getting the wind in my hair and hearing the birds singing.......it's about opening the throttle and seeing the world go blurry for a while.   If there are any birds singing in the trees when I'm out for a ride then they aint singing any more once the sonic boom has gone past em.

[lazs2]

swoop... why not have both?   I pretty much can gurantee that stomping your foot down on the loud pedal of the Healey will give you all the rush you could hope for.... while blowing your hair back.  

There really is more to the experiance than the sheer numbers..  the "feel" of speed.. the torque.. the sound and the vibration and bass notes.   Hard to explain but... a 12 sec hot rod is a hell of a lot more fun than a nine second bike...

At least... in my experiance.   I have done both... I don't care if I ever ride the bike again but I will always have a hot rod.. for bikes.. the old 750 BMW or an old Harley are fine with me... except for the stupid helmet thing.

lazs

[Swoop]

I really disagree on that one mate.


Not the point of doing both, I like cars just as much as I like bikes.......however, I really can tell the difference between a 12 second car and a 9 second bike.  And I can't afford to buy a 9 second car.  Or a 12 second car for that matter.  Could possibly manage a 15 second car.......

And I find the "feel" much more pronounced on a bike than in a car.
Personal preference I guess.

[john9001]

i don't want to ride or drive anything where i have to wear body armor and nomex.

i must be getting old.

[lazs2]

when I rode my buddies hyboooosa and, later, suzuki gee whiz...

They were blindingly fast but... no real sensation of speed or acceleration.   an older bike out in the open and vibrating and shaking and all "feels" faster.

I think what you need to do is drive a newer vette say that does 12 sec quarter miles and then get in a 55 chevy with a big block or 7 grand small block and a four speed and such that maybe does 13's   the vette just doesn't feel fast.. the 55 is a handful... you are afraid to take your hand off the wheel to shift... bang second and try to keep it straight..

with the new vette or new sport bikes you really have no sensation of acceleration or speed.. that is till you lose it... then you just die of course.

lazs

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

A customer (who was actually at the shop today) has a Superformance Cobra, I built the engine and put it together for him about 3 years ago. At the time Roush didn't have anything more than about 420HP. I built him a 625HP 427 Windsor with an iron block and aluminum heads. Because Superformance and their dealer here told him the Edelbrock heads I wanted to use wouldn't fit, I used a set of AFR heads. We also put a smaller cam in it because he takes it out in traffic. I'm hoping we can swap to Edelbrock heads soon, I have a friend who can get it into a good header shop. The headers Superformance sells kill HP. The Superformance dealer in Mooresville had the car on their chassis dyno and said it was the stoutest piece they'd run, the hot Roush stuff included. We're hoping to go from a 950 carb to trick IR fuel injection, and I want new heads and better headers on it. I can easily hit 725HP that way.

[john9001]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I built him a 625HP 427 Windsor with an iron block and aluminum heads.  

what kind of mileage does he get?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by john9001
what kind of mileage does he get?

Mileage? I have no idea. IF you could get it to hook up, and it wouldn't break
something in the rear end, it'd probably run mid 9 second quarter mile times at around 145MPH. It'll hold well over 1.1G on a skid pad on sticky street tires. In third gear, from a 55MPH roll, I can stab it and INSTANTLY smoke the tires sideways. I suppose if you tried you could get 20-25 MPG out of it with the over drive set up.

All that being said, I know where there is a 63 Corvette Gran Sport replica that can EASILY rip the Cobra a new one.

[1K3]

GT-R definitely lives up to its hype:aok
Autoweek drives the GT-R

Autoweek is also responsible for leaked photos  of the GT-R. These are the pictures you weren’t meant to see until next week

SPECS: 2009 Nissan GT-R
On Sale: May/June 2008

Base Price: Low 70s

Drivetrain: 3.8-liter, 473-hp, 433-lb-ft twin turbocharged V6; awd, six-speed automatic

Curb Weight: 3792 pounds (!!!!!!!!)

0-60: 3.5 seconds

Fuel Economy (EPA Combined): 21 mpg (mfg. target)

[lazs2]

The vette gets 25 mpg.. what does that thing get?

Oh...you can order a supercharger from the dealer for a vette.   No big deal.

lazs

[moot]

" the coefficient of drag is an impressive 0.27 "
Makes the bodywork sort of easier to tolerate, sorta.

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by moot
" the coefficient of drag is an impressive 0.27 "
Makes the bodywork sort of easier to tolerate, sorta.

maybe. the drag coefficient of the Corvette Z06 is 0.28 and it looks better

several others also, it doesnt have to be ugly...

0.29 Alfa Romeo 155, 1992
0.29 BMW 8-Series, 1989
0.29 Chevrolet Corvette, 2005
0.29 Dodge Charger Daytona, 1969
0.29 Honda Accord Hybrid, 2005
0.29 Honda CRX HF 1988
0.29 Lancia Dedra, 1990-1998
0.29 Lexus LS 400, 1990
0.29 Lotus Elite, 1958
0.29 Mazda Millenia, 1995-2002
0.29 Mazda RX-7 FC3S Aero Package, 1986-91
0.29 Mercedes-Benz SL (Roof Up), 2001
0.29 Mercedes-Benz W203 C-Class Coupe, 2001-2007
0.29 Porsche Boxster, 2005
0.29 Porsche 997 GT3, 2006
0.29 Subaru XT, 1985
0.29 Toyota Prius, 2001-2003
0.28 Porsche 997, 2004
0.28 Saab 9-3, 2003
0.28 Toyota Camry and sister model Lexus ES, 2005, 2007
0.28 Lexus IS, 2006-2007
0.27 Honda Civic Hybrid, 2006-2007
0.27 Infiniti G35, 2002 (0.26 with "aero package")
0.27 Mercedes-Benz W203 C-Class Sedan, 2001-2007
0.27 Toyota Camry Hybrid, 2007
0.26 Lexus LS 430, 2001 (0.25 with air suspension)
0.26 Mercedes-Benz W221 S-Class, 2006
0.26 Toyota Prius, 2004-2007
0.26 Opel Calibra, 1989
0.25 Audi A2 1.2 TDI, 2001
0.25 Honda Insight, 1999

[1K3]

meh

I think the new GT-R has too smooth lines.  It would look too European if Nissan decided not to stick with the previous Skyline GT-R's roots.

This is what the GT-R will always be known for...