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MOTOR TREND's December 2007 Issue
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2007, 03:14:23 PM »
Airscrew, most of those cars have pretty round and/or slick aero patterned bodies to start with.
The R35 GTR had to get a .27 from this:


I still think they could've done a much better job though.  The front looks like the front bumper's been stolen.  The rear quarter does look good, though.. but it doesn't have the same muscled voluptuousness the R34 had.  Looking at that car, you can feel the stance the same way as when watching a lean doberman or horse posing for show, the same way well cultivated human legs can seem to just ooze purpose when pictured the right way.

The Bangle BMWs only recently (saw one today and noted my change in reaction) started to grow over me, so just like most cars you can eventualy get used to them and see the old ones as less good looking or just too dated.
But this one lost too much of its character (not that uncommon a thing in JP cars, see the Impreza's ever changing designs), the same way (IMO anyway) the pre bangle 3 series and M3 were just about perfect.
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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2007, 03:38:43 PM »
well the R35 looks ok, but the new GT-R just doesnt look like the designers had much of an imagination, i basically looks to me like a stretched out and bulked up version of the 350Z, which in turn has a profile similar to a Porsche 911, just no imagination...

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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2007, 03:52:49 PM »
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well the R35 looks ok, but the new GT-R just doesnt look like the designers had much of an imagination, i basically looks to me like a stretched out and bulked up version of the 350Z, which in turn has a profile similar to a Porsche 911, just no imagination...


Tell that straight to Nissan who who spent ~7-8 years developing the GT-R:D







Also, they took a logical shortcut for borrowing other Nissan's FM platform to save on cost.  Then it's no wonder one might say it resembles the 350z or the Infiniti G-37
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« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2007, 04:05:27 PM »
I mean the GTR when I say R35, that's the model codename (R34 was the previous gen as in the above pic, R33 in 1K3's).  Now that I think of it, didn't the Z/G35 get the Rxx/Skyline designation since the GTR went off on its own?

I don't think it looks Z-ish so much as it and the Z are the fruits of contemporary JP design (I know the Z was done in cali, but it's no less Japanese styling IMO)... The 1098 Ducati was said to have been inspired in no small part by the R1 ("it was the one of the most beautiful bikes out there when we set to out to design it", or something like that, from one of the aesthetics designers), and almost anywhere you look in the motor industry, one shape or another has been 'stolen' and evolved in parallel at least once.. The new Z as I interpreted it was a continuation of the old Z (not the 300ZX), with the then commonplace teardrop shape.

Somewhere in the designers' head there was probably an original design intent, but I agree it's hard to find it :)
That, a V6 instead of an I6, and the huge weight are the biggest turn offs for me.
Maybe Italdesign could give it a work-over the same way they did the new Mustang :)
Like I meant to say above, sometimes futuristic designs get a little ahead of themselves (or seem to), but IMO it can be done right.  I can't think of any other examples off-hand, but the Pininfarina Maserati Birdcage shows what I think is futuristic done credibly enough.
The F430 was a nice evolution of the 355/360 line.
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« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2007, 04:09:35 PM »
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Tell that straight to Nissan who who spent ~7-8 years developing the GT-R:D

wow 7 to 8 years and thats the best they could do?  I dont really blame them though,  most of the really good looking cars have already been made




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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2008, 11:09:32 PM »
Hello 1K3. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2008, 11:18:56 PM »
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Hello 1K3. :rolleyes:

not very subtle is he...maybe he'll get better with his next account

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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2008, 11:31:04 PM »
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not very subtle is he...maybe he'll get better with his next account


How did he get the PNG, anyway?

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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2008, 01:35:32 AM »
When are you cage drivers going to realise hot chicks only dig track guys.




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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2008, 07:14:42 AM »
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It is ugly, and won't get chicks like a vette.


Still gota love the performance if its true.


You call this ugly???





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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2008, 07:19:11 AM »
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When are you cage drivers going to realise hot chicks only dig track guys.




:D

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Ah, but this girl has an outie, though.   And no hottie has an outie.  

Could you stand having that lump of flesh sticking out of her belly button?  

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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2008, 08:08:19 AM »
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You call this ugly???





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Gawd, that is so far beyond ugly the term smurfy doesn't do it justice.
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« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2008, 09:00:36 AM »
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Gawd, that is so far beyond ugly the term smurfy doesn't do it justice.

:aok  agreed... a new definition of ugly is needed

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« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2008, 09:07:42 AM »
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You call this ugly???





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I call that BUTT UGLY!
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