WW3 and Nuclear Iran

[john9001]

watch out boroda, after NATO invades Iran they are coming for russia. Remember the mongols? NATO will make the mongols look like little girls, you will be forced to work for a living and drive a car and have a telephone and a TV and live in a nice house.

And no lines at the fully stocked stores.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Boroda
You just named most reliable and low-maintenance firearms available. Just try to think why even a Chinese or Romanian AKM is better then M-16.

Killing with "Efficiency".    Glad you said it, and not me.   Truly something to be proud of.

[bj229r]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
Which "leaders" where they? and when did they "keep" threatening anyone?

The whole "wipe Israel off the map" this was a misquote from ONE speech in 2005, "World Without Zionism".

The actual translation:  
"The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)"

The "wipe off the map" quote is nothing more than an often repeated poor translation. Ask anyone who speaks Persian to translate Ahmadinejads speech, or try the magic of Google.

Besides that, Ahmadinejad isn't a "commander'n chief" president..  even if he really wanted too, he couldn't order the military to wipe their asses, much less Israel off the map.

Hmmm
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Ahmadinejad: Destroy Israel, End Crisis

By SEAN YOONG
The Associated Press
Thursday, August 3, 2006; 10:49 AM

PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday the solution to the Middle East crisis is to destroy Israel. In a speech during an emergency meeting of Muslim leaders, Ahmadinejad also called for an immediate halt to fighting in Lebanon between Israel and the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah.

"Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime, at this stage an immediate cease-fire must be implemented," he said.

Ahmadinejad, who has drawn international condemnation with previous calls for Israel to be wiped off the map, said the Middle East would be better off "without the existence of the Zionist regime."

Israel "is an illegitimate regime, there is no legal basis for its existence," he said.

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Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today echoed his earlier threats to "wipe Israel off the map" by telling a mass demonstration in Tehran, commemorating the 27th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution, that Palestinians and "other nations" will remove Israel from the region, adding a warning to the West that harsh measures against the nation's nuclear program would result in Iran walking away from the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT).

"The policy of Iran has so far been pursuing nuclear technology within the framework of the NPT and IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency)," he said. "If we see you (the West) want to violate the right of the Iranian people by using those regulations (against us), you should know that the Iranian people will revise its policies. You should do nothing that will lead to such a revision in our policy," said Ahmadinejad.

The crowd, numbered in the hundreds of thousands accoding to state media, responded to Ahmadinejad's defense of its nuclear program – believed by U.S. intelligence to be an effort to acquire atomic weapons – with cries of "Nuclear energy is our undisputable right," "Death to America," "Death of Israel," "Death to Denmark."

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TEHRAN, Iran —  Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday said the world would witness the destruction of Israel soon, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.

Ahmadinejad said last summer's war between Israel and Hezbollah showed for the first time that the "hegemony of the occupier regime [Israel] had collapsed, and the Lebanese nation pushed the button to begin counting the days until the destruction of the Zionist regime," IRNA quoted him as saying.

"God willing, in the near future we will witness the destruction of the corrupt occupier regime," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying during a speech to foreign guests who attended ceremonies marking the 18th anniversary of the death of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who is known as the father of Iran's 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Guy sure gets misquoted alot:rofl

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Boroda
Herat is in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan - British controlled?! Damn, in XIX century they lost more troops in one battle there then USSR did in 10 years!

Persia always had independent foreign policy, at least before WWI.

You know, you should do a little investigation before you post.

In 1803, Iran went to war against Russia during the Russo-Persian War. The Persians went to war because Russia was expanding from the north into the Caucasus Mountains. This marked the first major economic and military encroachments on Iranian interests during the colonial era.

Iran suffered major military defeats during the war. Under the terms of the Treaty of Gulistan in 1813, Iran recognized Russia's annexation of Georgia and ceded to Russia most of the north Caucasus region.

The Russo-Persian War of the late 1820s ended even more disastrously for Iran. In 1828, Iran was forced to sign the Treaty of Turkmenchay acknowledging Russian sovereignty over the entire South Caucasus, the area north of the Aras River.

Fath Ali Shah's reign saw increased diplomatic contacts with the West and the beginning of intense European diplomatic rivalries over Iran. His grandson Mohammad Shah, who fell under the influence of Russia and made two unsuccessful attempts to capture Herat, succeeded him in 1834.

In the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907 Iran was divided into three zones: a British zone in the south, a Russian zone in the north, and a narrow neutral zone serving as buffer in between. (The Convention was very careful not to call any of these zones a sphere of influence, for fear it would look like the Great Powers were partitioning Persia.)

Regarding Afghanistan, Russia recognized the country as a semi-protectorate of Great Britain and abandoned its earlier efforts to establish direct relations with the emir.

[Yeager]

...I just wonder why do I even bother arguing with you?...
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Because its fun, and entertaining......plus your wicked sense of post soviet era humor is biting, self effacing and extraordinarily revealing

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Yeager
...I just wonder why do I even bother arguing with you?...
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Because its fun, and entertaining......plus your wicked sense of post soviet era humor is biting, self effacing and extraordinarily revealing

I meant one particular person, not "you" in general. Arguing with Masherbrum is like a drunk man nagging at the radio: sing me a song, sing me a song! One-way communication.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Boroda
I meant one particular person, not "you" in general. Arguing with Masherbrum is like a drunk man nagging at the radio: sing me a song, sing me a song! One-way communication.

Next you'll be telling us the Soviets were in Afghanistan "because they were lost".

[lazs2]

I guess it is just coincidence that every country that we have fought since WWII has had soviet weapons.. some even almost top shelf stuff..

It is the same for the russians... everyone they fight has US weapons...

Why don't we just admit it... we don't like each other and we think that commies are scum and all russians want to make everyone a commie and will always supply our enemies..

we can also admit that russians hate and envy us and think we are capitalist pigs and we want to destroy the great socialist dream and will always supply the enemies of socialism.

We don't like you and you don't like us and we will always try to get at each other by egging on some poor dumb third world country to cause one of us or the other a huge pain in the butt.. the only problem is...

you guys go over the line way too far.. you want to... have always been doing it.. give nukes to nutjobs.

This is unacceptable in our little game.

lazs

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
Next you'll be telling us the Soviets were in Afghanistan "because they were lost".

Prefect radio answer.

Keep broadcasting please.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by lazs2
I guess it is just coincidence that every country that we have fought since WWII has had soviet weapons.. some even almost top shelf stuff..

It is the same for the russians... everyone they fight has US weapons...

Why don't we just admit it... we don't like each other and we think that commies are scum and all russians want to make everyone a commie and will always supply our enemies..

we can also admit that russians hate and envy us and think we are capitalist pigs and we want to destroy the great socialist dream and will always supply the enemies of socialism.

We don't like you and you don't like us and we will always try to get at each other by egging on some poor dumb third world country to cause one of us or the other a huge pain in the butt.. the only problem is...

you guys go over the line way too far.. you want to... have always been doing it.. give nukes to nutjobs.

This is unacceptable in our little game.

lazs

Lasz, can I use this quote as an illustration to our "discussions" here? I want to send it to left-wing press and get famous.

You guys are coming closer to perfection with every post. Russians say that "Other's mind is darkness" (÷óæàÿ äóøà - ïîò¸ìêè), I wish I could see something in a place where such concepts appear.

[lazs2]

boroda.. how bout being a little honest?   why not admit that every misstep the US makes bring glee to you.

Sure.. we do the same.. we love to laugh at russians and the way they do things.

Admit it.. we don't like each other much and... once you guys get enough money to fund another soviet union we will be (openly) enemies again.

you and I have this in common... we both miss having each other as enemies.

difference is that I admit it.

To be fair.. this may be because we won... my life is great.. we have the things us fat capitalist pigs love while you have... vodka.

lazs

[bj229r]

Lol thought about making a thread for this...but it sorta fits here:

AJAF, Iraq — At what’s believed to be the world’s largest cemetery, where *****e Muslims aspire to be buried and millions already have been, business isn't good.

A drop in violence around Iraq has cut burials in the huge Wadi al Salam cemetery here by at least one-third in the past six months, and that’s cut the pay of thousands of workers who make their living digging graves, washing corpses or selling burial shrouds.

If ya look hard enough, ya can ALWAYS find a dark cloud behind a silver lining:
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[68ROX]

Anyone who believes that Iran wants Russian (or any other source) of weapons grade plutonium SOLELY for a electrical power source lives in a fantasy world.

Iranian President Amattentionpotato has already told his own people what he plans to do with it...nuke Isreal.

I've asked this already, but got no answer...

HOW does giving Iran Russian weapons grade plutonium/uranium make the world SAFER?

HOW does giving Iran Russian weapons grade plutonium/uranium make Russia safer?

If they'd use it on Isreal, Afghanistan, Iraq...what makes you think they wouldn't use it on you?

I personally think that Iranian President Amattentionpotato saw the Taliban in Afghanistan, and the Iraqi army fall like a house of cards and pooped his pants.

He's got US/Coalition troops on both of his borders and knows his own army (LOVE the motorcycles!) would not last long...hence, all the rhetoric and grandstanding.


68ROX

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by bj229r


Guy sure gets misquoted alot:rofl

Show me the original text, I'll have it translated for you and you can decide for yourself.

They simply dont have the same expressions, or idioms... someone decided:

This: "The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem must [vanish from] the page of time "

Best translated to this: "wiped off the map"..

1st "wipe off the map" mis quote was reported by Reuters and re-printed 100's of times as a wire story, even though the Iranian .gov corrected his statement.

He also didn't say Iran has no homosexuals, he said they don't have as many... and he also wasn't always taking about re-investigating the "holocaust" as was reported, he did mention re-investigating the 9/11 attacks several times...

There are lots of Jews living peacefully in Iran, they even have representation in the .gov.... they don't hate Jewish people, they are against a Jewish state based on one argument it wasn't fair to take away land from the people who lived there and give it away... and they spew a-lot of rhetoric aimed at removing the Israeli .gov.

Also consider Ahmadinejad is a politician, he lies, rallies his "base" with fiery rhetoric, and paints the west as a menace, an enemy, then portrays himself as the "decider" who can best combat these evils...   JUST LIKE the liars in our .gov do with low budget speeches about fears of doom, mushroom clouds, WWII, crazy Arabs, the sky is falling, and the possible danger of a nuk-ler eye-ran.

[john9001]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
Also consider Ahmadinejad is a politician, he lies, rallies his "base" with fiery rhetoric, and paints the west as a menace, an enemy, then portrays himself as the "decider" who can best combat these evils...   JUST LIKE the liars in our .gov do with low budget speeches about fears of doom, mushroom clouds, WWII, crazy Arabs, the sky is falling, and the possible danger of a nuk-ler eye-ran.

so you are saying Ahmadinejad is hitler?