Hispanic boycott of Irving,Tx

[Viking]

[storch]

sheeple, do you not yet realize that every law you pass into existance only serves to limit you?

the federal government does not enforce existing laws, they are illegal immigrants.  do you think any more litigation will make them illegal illegal immigrants?

america deserves the government it is getting the sheeple are bleating for more of it daily.

[lazs2]

Is there a list of strores in Irving that we can buy online from?

I find it strange but jb88 is making sense on this.. It must be causing him some personal hardship.

arlo... not sure what your point is.   You don't see a difference in the residents of Texas in the 1800's fighting to free themselves from mexican rule and illegal aliens?  

The illegals feel that the border is open and anyone who is standing on American soil is.... an American..  with the same rights as everyone else.  They also think that this is a socialist country where wealth is simply divided up and given to the poor until they have as much as they want..

We are doing nothing to prove them wrong.

lazs

[JB88]

this subject is one that you and i have always agreed on lasz.

especially where concerned with employers.

[Mark Luper]

Originally posted by JB88
this subject is one that you and i have always agreed on lasz.

especially where concerned with employers.

JB, I too beleive there is a problem with illegal immigrants and one that needs to be addressed with the laws already in place.

When you wrote "Remember the Alamo", I just wanted to point out that some Hispanics fought for Texas independance too and that the fact they are Hispanic in and of itself does not make them and their decendants any less a citizen of our country.

I understand your frustration. I had to deal with something similar in a machine shop I worked at. Though hard working, the owner was hiring illegals at a fraction of what a citizen would be paid for doing the same job. My gripe was that they took someone's job who had a right to be here.

Mark

[Bodhi]

the really sad thing is, is that people really do support illegal alien rights...

[RedTop]

Originally posted by JB88
snip....we are all responsible for the problem...

Huh.,...no...I disagree

I haven't smuggled , employed , supoorted in anyway directly to illegals.

I haven't supported illegal immigration at all.

Sorry....I just disagree with this part of your statement.

[JB88]

all citizens must claim some responsibility for the society they live in.

what do you do redtop?

[RedTop]

Supervisor of a Computer Room.

[culero]

Originally posted by Mark Luper
snip
I understand your frustration. I had to deal with something similar in a machine shop I worked at. Though hard working, the owner was hiring illegals at a fraction of what a citizen would be paid for doing the same job. My gripe was that they took someone's job who had a right to be here.

Mark

I often wonder at the perspective people see these situations with.

Personally, I don't have any gripe with someone who wants to earn a wage taking a job that's offered to him, even if he is a foreigner. I can understand that.

But I do have a major gripe with every SOB who is a citizen here that deliberately disobeys our laws in order to enrich himself by exploiting people who will accept the pittance he offers them, and not hiring those who are citizens at the going rate.

IMO, its this SOB who is the root of the problem, not the immigrants. If we would clean our own house of ****-heads like him, we would make major progress in solving the problem of illegal immigration by drying up the source of the bait that draws them here.

I'm more offended by one of my own stabbing me and his nation in the back than by a foreigner from a country less fortunate than ours seeking to work and earn, call me crazy.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by culero
I often wonder at the perspective people see these situations with.

Personally, I don't have any gripe with someone who wants to earn a wage taking a job that's offered to him, even if he is a foreigner. I can understand that.

But I do have a major gripe with every SOB who is a citizen here that deliberately disobeys our laws in order to enrich himself by exploiting people who will accept the pittance he offers them, and not hiring those who are citizens at the going rate.

IMO, its this SOB who is the root of the problem, not the immigrants. If we would clean our own house of ****-heads like him, we would make major progress in solving the problem of illegal immigration by drying up the source of the bait that draws them here.

I'm more offended by one of my own stabbing me and his nation in the back than by a foreigner from a country less fortunate than ours seeking to work and earn, call me crazy.

Spot on. Though I still think the boycott and protecting criminals from INS is loopy.

[culero]

Originally posted by Arlo
Spot on. Though I still think the boycott and protecting criminals from INS is loopy.

Well, yeah, I was just side-tracking

[E25280]

Originally posted by Mark Luper
When you wrote "Remember the Alamo", I just wanted to point out that some Hispanics fought for Texas independance too and that the fact they are Hispanic in and of itself does not make them and their decendants any less a citizen of our country.

I have to point out, though, that you just fell for the pro-illegal crowd's attempt at making this a racial issue.

It isn't.

I don't care if the illegals are Mexican, Indian, Chinese, African, Bosnian, Polish, British, Canadian, whatever.  If they are not supposed to be here, I don't want them here.  Period.

But, Mexico is where upwards of 90% of the problem comes from, whether they are actually Mexican or originate from some other country.  If it is >90% of the problem, solving that problem puts a much bigger dent than concentrating on the <10%.

I guarantee, if there were 2-3 million Europeans entering the US illegally each year by boat, you would hear people calling for expanded Coast Guard capability to stop the influx.  If planeloads of illegal Chinese were flying in daily, landing on our interstates to disgorge their "cargo", you would hear people wondering why we aren't shooting them down as soon as they enter our airspace.

But they are walking here more often than not.  This is why the call is for better enforcement on the Mexican border.

Race has nothing to do with it.

[Mark Luper]

I don't know if they are making it a racial issue. The subject was about a particular group of illegals and a particular incident. The Mexicans from Mexico and a particular group who speaks for them. That is the issue I was addressing.

I will say though that I feel the same way about any illegal regardless of origin.

Mark

[Toad]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled criminals yearning to breathe free,
The criminal element of your teeming shore.
Send these, the burglars and murderers to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."