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Offline Snubby

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« on: October 27, 2007, 01:44:23 AM »
Over the years the perk rating for rides have been changed, why not again...

P-51D - 3-4 perkies

LA7  5-6 perkies

51D:
many will say "the 51D isnt that good of a ride, there is no reason to perk it!!"

which is true..  considering how many noobs fly them, when i see 51D i usually consider it easy meat..  and there in lies the reason to perk it..  it may not be overly lethal, but it its way to commin (IMO), adding a minor perk value will perhaps dissuade new folks from immediatly going straight to the "best fighter of WWII" and may, just may, encourage them to explore the rest of the plane set.

LA7:
2 reasons,

1: same a the 51.. its everywhere..  but secondly it IS a overly lethal plane, too much so for being totally free at least.. it  

its about the fastest non-perked ride in the game.. which in and of itself is not enough reason, but it also accelerates like a bullit, and  climbs like the space shuttle, and as if thats not enough, it packs firepower that is outstripped only by the hizooka equipped birds, and at speeds above 250 can turn with most anything in the game.. and if it cant out turn it, it can out accelerate, out climb, and out run it... ESPECIALLY at the alts at which most MA battles occur.

about the only thing NOT "uber" on the plane is its range... most planes would get farther with multiple fuel leaks.   well the guns are kinda inaccurate at great range.. but with superior speed, climb, and turning that point is kinda moot, the shots will be there.


anywho, thats my "wish list"

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2007, 08:02:37 AM »
Agreed.

'noobs' should explore the planeset...
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2007, 08:44:44 AM »
I can tell you right now that HT will never perk the pony.

Since he will never perk the pony chances are very very slim that he'd ever perk the la7. As they are foils for each other, they keep each other in check.

You want to play with perks, sure, have fun.

Drop TA-152  to 5
Drop AR234 to no more than 15 each (its worthless )

Put Tempest up to 50 (been seeing a lot of these lately.)

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2007, 08:50:08 AM »
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Drop AR234 to no more than 15 each (its worthless )



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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2007, 09:31:33 AM »
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Drop TA-152  to 5
Drop AR234 to no more than 15 each (its worthless )

Put Tempest up to 50 (been seeing a lot of these lately.)



Ta 152 isn't perked, so you can't drop it to 5.
Tempest has a basic cost of 50 perks already.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2007, 09:46:00 AM »
Only real change I'd make is to dump the perk cost on the Spitfire Mk XIV.  If you really need a perked Spitfire, perk the Mk XVI.  It is much easier to use.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2007, 11:57:27 AM »
Since perks are usable in any arena -

  Perk 'em all except for the 109E, the Hurri C, Spit I and JU 87......



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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2007, 12:24:40 PM »
My bomber stats so far this camp in that "worthless" AR234:

Damage per Death   1565025.51 Rank 2
Damage per Sortie   78251.28   Rank 41
Damage Hit Percentage   601.11 Rank 69
Damage Points   1565025.51 Rank 246

18 sorties (6x3), all landed.

Overall bomber rank:  13
« Last Edit: October 27, 2007, 12:27:04 PM by BaldEagl »
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2007, 12:44:45 PM »
why not perk all planes with value over 25.  Add some risk to flying.  Might also put the kaboosh on those jerk who pork and bail.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2007, 12:54:02 PM »
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why not perk all planes with value over 25.  Add some risk to flying.  Might also put the kaboosh on those jerk who pork and bail.


It would just make the game much more difficult and less fun for all new players. Veterans have thousands of persk, respectiveley can get the perks needed quite easy.
But a new player has to stick in ENY>25 planes, while people like me hunt them down in Spit's, Lala's Tempests, 190D's etc.

Not a good idea for gameplay, and certainly not a good one for HTC's buissiness, I guess...
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Re: Perk Changes
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2007, 01:19:55 PM »
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LA7:
2 reasons,

1: same a the 51.. its everywhere..  but secondly it IS a overly lethal plane, too much so for being totally free at least.. it  

its about the fastest non-perked ride in the game.. which in and of itself is not enough reason, but it also accelerates like a bullit, and  climbs like the space shuttle, and as if thats not enough, it packs firepower that is outstripped only by the hizooka equipped birds, and at speeds above 250 can turn with most anything in the game.. and if it cant out turn it, it can out accelerate, out climb, and out run it... ESPECIALLY at the alts at which most MA battles occur.

about the only thing NOT "uber" on the plane is its range... most planes would get farther with multiple fuel leaks.   well the guns are kinda inaccurate at great range.. but with superior speed, climb, and turning that point is kinda moot, the shots will be there.


Lets see, its killed me 5 times, I've killed it 4 times. Sure it's beating me but considering I was in an A6M5b I woulden't say it's out classing anything, just learn how to fight it. :aok
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Re: Re: Perk Changes
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2007, 02:46:12 PM »
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Lets see, its killed me 5 times, I've killed it 4 times. Sure it's beating me but considering I was in an A6M5b I woulden't say it's out classing anything, just learn how to fight it. :aok


your sort of missing the issue..

though....

its probably flown by more noobs than any other plane in the game, yet your not breaking even with it..  so sub par pilots are beating your more often than not and you probably ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING.


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Since he will never perk the pony chances are very very slim that he'd ever perk the la7. As they are foils for each other, they keep each other in check.


the LA7 doesent offset the P51D, it blows it out of the water in the MA environment  in every aspect except range..  given equally (noobish) drivers the 51 is just meat on the LA7s plate.



I also have trouble seeing how adding a VERY MINOR perk value.. 4  or 5 points..  would harm the new players, HTC or anyone else..

the planeset is so diverse and there are so many other EXCELLENT rides..  its not like it would limit options..

wanna fly a 51, fly the B? or another plane.. shoot down one or 2 guys.. god forbid expand your horizons a little.. bing, enough perks for the 51..

wanna fly the LA7, well fly the LA5 for one damn mission.. .. shoot down a P51.. boom, enough perks for your beloved 7..


Ill have to admit, if the 51 and LA7 weren't so poorly regarded as "uber" noob rides, I wouldn't have avoided them and eventually found my true love, the 9U.:p

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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2007, 03:05:10 PM »
Mehh perk those 2 then they will fly the 51b and the La5.  Then what? Perk those also because you can't catch them.  Much about nothing.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2007, 03:29:25 PM »
You're comparing apples and oranges.

The P51 was designed to perform best above 20k.

The LA7 was designed to perform best below 10k.

If you fight the P51 at its design altitude against the LA7 you'd see that the LA7 ain't so tough after all.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2007, 03:54:34 PM »
Honestly, I don't see that great of a reason to perk the pony.  You don't see that many of them, compared to an average MA sortie.  I see just about the same amount, if not more, of LA's, Spits, and F4U's (maybe a little less of those).  And as said, when you think about it, the 51 isn't that great of a plane performance wise.  Average lethality, climb, poor acceleration, and poor turning radius (at lower speeds).  It really only has speed, distance, and views (something that isn't as important in real life as in the MA).  IMHO the pony shouldn't be perked.  


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