Author Topic: Check this game out... (Read 2325 times)

Ghosth · « **Reply #45 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:59:16 AM »

Well I pony'd up and bought this Sunday.

Went into game, traded the old palfrey off for a heavy hunter.
Had pretty good armor, but added new boots and a lance.
Took me a bit to figure out the whole couched lance thing but once I did.
Ohhhh MY GAWD!

Foot troops have no chance, make passes through them reverse, repeat.
Now my caravan guards hold their position while I make runs through the enemy. Unless we are vastly outnumbered. In which case we'll make a couple of charges to even the score, then park them up on a hill.

Nothing ever got combat so it felt like this. Not Medevil Total War, NWN, Dungeon Siege, nothing.

And to be in at the start, with new features coming, is a big bonus IMO.

I would love to change the tournament setup though.
You should be able to choose what weapons class to fight in.
And fights should be between weapons classes. Not archers vs full blown knights. But Archers vs Archers, Mounted lance vs Mounted Lance, etc.

Should also have option of choosing single combat, 2 vs 2, 4 vs 4 or a full 16x16 melee.

And yes if you choose a sword fight should walk in there with YOUR armor, your sword, YOUR shield, and YOUR skill. Then you win, or lose on Your ability.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:18:16 AM »

There's a mod that changes the arena set up.

moot · « **Reply #47 on:** October 29, 2007, 08:37:56 AM »

That mod didn't work for me, fatal stop error as it loads. It's a shame, jousting looks fun.

This game has a lot of potential.. Tons of things already in place that would be really great if they were polished.

Tac · « **Reply #48 on:** October 29, 2007, 09:04:47 AM »

well historically the mounted knights were vulnerable to crossbows and longbows and pikes.

Im not complaining about the damage done by the weapons (if anything I think its too light. I had a javelin in my chest for a whole fight.. I mean, cmon

) but the strange range the AI has with them.

For example, the Javelin.

I've had my javelin throwers parked on a hilltop and the enemy javelin units were so far away I had to zoom in to be able to distinguish their body shapes (from being a black blob in the horizon to a really small man-figure).

All the sudden javelins start to fly into my men. My men dont fire back (they under orders to hold position). I ride ahead with zoom on and stare in disbelief as I see their footmen advancing AND throwing javelins.

Also, as far as cavalry vs infantry... get yourself a pike.

Since the game doesnt have a 'put the stick forward so they impale themselves' motion, you have to time your attack to the charging horseman.

I love fighting against the steppe bandits with a pike. braveheart moment!

moot · « **Reply #49 on:** October 29, 2007, 09:54:28 AM »

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I think its too light. I had a javelin in my chest for a whole fight

Did you set the damage model to realistic? I was taking a castle earlier, had it all but wrapped up, and something (never found out what) ate up the whole half of health I had left in one hit.
The full real fighting controls are fun too. The same way full manual controls in sims can be slower at first, you really get a lot more kick out of beating the odds with no gadgets once past the initial learning curve.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #50 on:** October 29, 2007, 10:51:30 AM »

This sounds so awesome I am a bit afraid to download it. I dont need another time stealer lol.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #51 on:** October 29, 2007, 12:01:08 PM »

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Originally posted by moot
That mod didn't work for me, fatal stop error as it loads. It's a shame, jousting looks fun.

This game has a lot of potential.. Tons of things already in place that would be really great if they were polished.

Check the version of the game it's supposed to work for.

The mod I play does not use the latest version, so I don't know what's what version wise.

TPIguy · « **Reply #52 on:** October 29, 2007, 12:18:38 PM »

I played some more yesterday and am still enjoying it. I used the character export to "respec" my guy into horse archery. If you pick the wrong skills its the only way to fix your guy.

I've found it to be useful in cav v cav fights after the initial rush. When their cavalry are chasing yours around you can pick em off with the bow or shoot the horse out from under them. It beats chasing them forever trying to lance them. Lances and swinging a big 2hander are still more useful against infantry though.

I think I made a mistake by taking castles. After I took 2 castles from the orange guys they gave up fighting. They just sit in Praven with 3 armies and won't come out. Also, nobody has bothered to attack the castles I took so I got rid of the expensive garrison I had.

You almost have to run all cavalry once you get high renown. Because everybody runs from you and nobody wants to fight. I had a king w/ 120 men run from my 40.

If you use only cavalry you can run anyone down.

For a while I tried running with only 20 guys and did fairly well. Until I lost my 4 horse archers fighting a kings army. As a nord I still haven't been able to replace them.

The biggest thing I'd like to see added is the ability to organize your troops before battle. Its hard to get them positioned in time if the enemy has cavalry. The enemy seems to do just 2 things. Charge or stand still. I'd like to seem them use more tactics also.

Has anyone played with the AI setting? What exactly does it do?

Gunslinger · « **Reply #53 on:** October 29, 2007, 05:44:33 PM »

My favorite is the great Axe. I line up an archor or something and just one swing and he's dead. I Don't even have to be close to him.

One battle I got knocked off my hours and there were still two enemy caravan guards coming after me. The axe made quick work of their horses and then of them. I literally was the last one standing.

I now work for a king and raid caravans and armys and such. Even though I have more renown then some of the big dogs in my kingdome I don't get squat as far as bennies from them. No quests no nothing. I also hate how its 46 on 22 agains your favor and you woop the crap out of the enemy with no casualties and they ALLWAYS seem to escape.

Dowding · « **Reply #54 on:** October 29, 2007, 06:47:29 PM »

At the end of the day it's still very much a beta game. I think it is one of those games you'll come back to every couple of months to check out progress, or play a new mod. I'm playing Calradia at War at the moment, and it isn't that different apart from a lot more Heroes and a larger unit tree.

There's talk of a pirates based mod, which should be interesting.

Tac · « **Reply #55 on:** October 29, 2007, 07:09:26 PM »

Yep. I think ill hold on in buying this game until a few months from now.

Furball · « **Reply #56 on:** October 30, 2007, 02:58:26 AM »

You should buy now, i read that the price is going up as the game progresses, it is currently on 75% of retail.

I really like the game, very addictive. Thought that the siege towers are very cool!

Saxman · « **Reply #57 on:** October 30, 2007, 07:30:44 AM »

I haven't really done any sieges yet. First, all the castles are on opposite sides of the map from my current lands, so it'd give me too much territory to cover if I have to defend them. Second, my army is only about 40 men, and I'd just break it if I tried to assault one.

Angus · « **Reply #58 on:** October 30, 2007, 07:49:10 AM »

Checked it out, and found it very much fun!

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #59 on:** October 30, 2007, 08:08:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Furball
You should buy now, i read that the price is going up as the game progresses, it is currently on 75% of retail.

I really like the game, very addictive. Thought that the siege towers are very cool!

I bought it at $18 a year or so back. Someone in this thread mentioned they bought it for $22?