Author Topic: What is a Militia? (Read 20177 times)

Arlo · « **Reply #210 on:** November 26, 2007, 05:42:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Rich46yo
I get an even bigger kick out of people saying how we created Al Qaeda and empowered Bin Laden, and Saddam too. Such statements show a total ignorance of actual history. My apologies if I veered to far from the subject at hand.

I've seen historical data pointing to that and none disproving it yet. It's hard for me to take someone's claim as such being "historical ignorance" without historical data to counter with. Just sayin'. Gimme some "actual history" to counter this history text with.

"The basis of the Taliban was provided when, in the early 1980s, the CIA and the ISI (Pakistan's Interservices Intelligence Agency) provided arms to any group resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and started the process of gathering radical Muslims from around the world to fight against the Soviets. Osama Bin Laden was one of the key players in organizing these U.S.-backed training camps for the Muslims. The U.S. poured funds and arms into Afghanistan and "by 1987, 65,000 tons of U.S.-made weapons and ammunition a year were entering the war".

"The Taliban were based in the Helmand, Kandahar and Uruzgan regions, and were overwhelmingly ethnic Pashtuns and predominantly Durrani Pashtuns. They received training and arms from Pakistan, the U.S. as well as other Middle Eastern countries who had been recruited by the U.S. to thwart the Soviet invasion of this region."

http://hqinet001.hqmc.usmc.mil/PP&O/SIG/BOOKSUMMARIES/BookSum-Taliban.htm

Historical text focused on the origins of the Taliban (circa 2000)

Maverick · « **Reply #211 on:** November 26, 2007, 05:52:05 PM »

Bingalong,

Last response as I don't have any respect for trolls. Keep in mind that blowing up an insurgent / terrorist / military ammo dump usually involves more than just small arms. That kind of situation does not conform to the examples you provided earlier.

I brought up mythbusters as it's something easily verified and you can go visit their web site to find the episode. It confirmed the experience I have personally had.

Slash27 · « **Reply #212 on:** November 26, 2007, 06:01:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Bingolong
Good points

I found all your weapons bye the way:D
http://www.musictoyz.com/images/jpg/slash3.jpg

There's a mini gun hidden in the Honey Burst Les Paul and a flame thrower in the double neck SG.

Tigeress · « **Reply #213 on:** November 27, 2007, 11:17:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Arlo
Freud would have a field day here.

Xargos, where does the funding for the war come from? Which taxes really represent the war tax? And with that much investment couldn't the government give every adult in the nation a free M-16 along with a monthly clip of ammo and have quite a bit left over? Wait a sec ....

$586.00 a rifle ....

Age structure: (2007 est.)

0–19 years: 27.4% (male 42,667,761; female 40,328,895)
20–64 years: 60.1% (male 89,881,041; female 90,813,578)
65 years and over: 12.6% (male 15,858,477; female 21,991,195)

Leaving out 19 years of age and younger .... round up to 230 million souls ....

Almost 135 billion ... for the rifles, anyhow.

Cost of Iraq war to date: 471 billion and counting.

Hell, Halliburton pizzed off more than the cost of arming the entire citizenry with "the modern day equivilant of muskets."

Granted, I haven't taken into account felons or the mentally disabled.

I could see a tax. But who gets their M-16 first? How does one apply? Is there a seperate tax for body armor? Do public schools make bootcamp mandatory?

Correct me if I am wrong, but...

Looks to me like the war has been put on the Country's credit card instead of raising taxes to pay for it. The national debt has almost doubled since Bush took office.

Someone sometime will have to pay it down eventually; I doubt the righties or lefties want to do that on their turn at watch and want the other party to have to raise taxes and take the heat.

TIGERESS

john9001 · « **Reply #214 on:** November 27, 2007, 11:33:59 AM »

the democrat candidates have already said they will tax the rich.

Tigeress · « **Reply #215 on:** November 27, 2007, 02:34:36 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
the democrat candidates have already said they will tax the rich.

hahahaha the rich don't have the collective earning power that collectively, the non-rich has.

Who are the rich? define Rich...

The Dems will tax us all, IMV.

TIGERESS

john9001 · « **Reply #216 on:** November 27, 2007, 03:10:17 PM »

I'm just repeating what they said. They say they will roll back bush's tax cuts.

wrag · « **Reply #217 on:** November 27, 2007, 03:27:24 PM »

OK that's it!!!

Your all in trouble NOW!

Cause I'm gettin one of THESE........................ ......

http://www.backyardartillery.com/machinegun/

Arlo · « **Reply #218 on:** November 27, 2007, 03:32:02 PM »

http://www.faireconomy.org/estatetax/ETWealth.html

Just info. Never hurts, eh?

soda72 · « **Reply #219 on:** November 27, 2007, 03:33:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo

http://www.faireconomy.org/estatetax/ETWealth.html

Just info. Never hurts, eh?

Should you be at work?

Arlo · « **Reply #220 on:** November 27, 2007, 03:36:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Tigeress
Correct me if I am wrong, but...

Looks to me like the war has been put on the Country's credit card instead of raising taxes to pay for it. The national debt has almost doubled since Bush took office.

Someone sometime will have to pay it down eventually; I doubt the righties or lefties want to do that on their turn at watch and want the other party to have to raise taxes and take the heat.

TIGERESS

I didn't say anything about raising taxes. I said for what the war costs we could have armed everyone above the age of 19 in the U.S. with M-16s and had plenty enough left over. Cut Halliburton loose from leeching/contracting and there'd be enough still left for the GWOT.

Arlo · « **Reply #221 on:** November 27, 2007, 03:40:37 PM »

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Originally posted by soda72
Should you be at work?

Someone make you my boss?

Tigeress · « **Reply #222 on:** November 27, 2007, 04:11:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo
I didn't say anything about raising taxes. I said for what the war costs we could have armed everyone above the age of 19 in the U.S. with M-16s and had plenty enough left over. Cut Halliburton loose from leeching/contracting and there'd be enough still left for the GWOT.

I know... It wasn't directly in reference to your post... more on the lines of when the price of the IRAQ War will be paid. I started a thread on the subject.

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220612

TIGERESS

john9001 · « **Reply #223 on:** November 27, 2007, 04:44:45 PM »

the longest govt bond is 30 years, so if the govt stops borrowing money they could pay off the debt in 30 years, but it will never happen.

the govt needs one of them debt counseling services.

EagleDNY · « **Reply #224 on:** November 27, 2007, 05:04:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Arlo

http://www.faireconomy.org/estatetax/ETWealth.html

Just info. Never hurts, eh?

Here's a little more relevant info:
Tax Burden Paid by Income Percentage

Oh, and on the estate tax - here's another interesting number:

Amount in Estate Taxes Paid by the Kennedy Family on a 500-Million Dollar Estate (after going through a fiji-islands trust set up by their high-paid tax lawyers): $134,330.90 (0.04%)

That number, incidentally, is the same amount that would normally be charged to the estate of some farmer or small business guy with assets of 2.26 million who didn't have an army of high-paid tax lawyers working for him.

So the next time big Ted Kennedy stands up and complains about the rich not paying their "fair share", tell him to go pound sand.