What is a Militia?

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Tigeress
I know... It wasn't directly in reference to your post... more on the lines of when the price of the IRAQ War will be paid. I started a thread on the subject.

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220612

TIGERESS

Can you name any war we've been in that was paid for up front?

[Arlo]

Originally posted by EagleDNY
Here's a little more relevant info:
 

Actually, your opinion of relevancy is relative to prespective. Ain't it? No different than mine. But your argument still seems to beg more taxation on the rich, by your Kennedy family example. (Wait .... you thought I was a Democrat, didn't ya? ). And the top five percent makes equivalently more. You act as if their paying more in taxes is a real tragedy. Guess I'm not seeing reason to weep.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Maverick
Can you name any war we've been in that was paid for up front?

Making the expense, waste and mismanagement of the current one justifiable how?

[Tigeress]

Originally posted by EagleDNY
Here's a little more relevant info:
Tax Burden Paid by Income Percentage

Oh, and on the estate tax - here's another interesting number:

Amount in Estate Taxes Paid by the Kennedy Family on a 500-Million Dollar Estate (after going through a fiji-islands trust set up by their high-paid tax lawyers):  $134,330.90  (0.04%)

That number, incidentally, is the same amount that would normally be charged to the estate of some farmer or small business guy with assets of 2.26 million who didn't have an army of high-paid tax lawyers working for him.

Life is not fair... and, that's the way its been since the time wealth was first invented. I finally stopped loosing sleep over the super rich and the unfairness of what they don't pay. It's a universal constant.

There are other things which can be controlled.

At least the money the super rich spends usually finds its way into the economy in the way of jobs and business for smaller busineses.

TIGERESS

[EagleDNY]

Originally posted by john9001
the longest govt bond is 30 years, so if the govt stops borrowing money they could pay off the debt in 30 years,  but it will never happen.

the govt needs one of them debt counseling services.

The feds took in 2.4 TRILLION dollars in revenue last year - then entire defense dept, with war funding bills included, spent just under $700 billion.  It aint the war that is going to break the bank folks, it's what the government does with that other 1.7 trillion dollars.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by EagleDNY
The feds took in 2.4 TRILLION dollars in revenue last year - then entire defense dept, with war funding bills included, spent just under $700 billion.  It aint the war that is going to break the bank folks, it's what the government does with that other 1.7 trillion dollars.

Pay interest on debt. Lucrative contracts for Brown and Root.

[soda72]

Originally posted by Arlo
Someone make you my boss?

Dick Cheney said he might put you up for sell....  He's a little worried about not making it through surgery..

I told him I'd think about it...

[Arlo]

Originally posted by soda72
Dick Cheney said he might put you up for sell....  He's a little worried about not making it through surgery..

I told him I'd think about it...

I come cheap. DON'T. DON'T come cheap!

[john9001]

don't forget the big govt jet to fly Pelosi from cal to DC and back couple times a week.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by john9001
don't forget the big govt jet to fly Pelosi from cal to DC and back couple times a week.

Cause SOH rates a moped and the dynamic duo don't? Whatchoothinkyoutawkinboutwil lis?

[EagleDNY]

Originally posted by Arlo
Actually, your opinion of relevancy is relative to prespective. Ain't it? No different than mine. But your argument still seems to beg more taxation on the rich, by your Kennedy family example. (Wait .... you thought I was a Democrat, didn't ya? ). And the top five percent makes equivalently more. You act as if their paying more in taxes is a real tragedy. Guess I'm not seeing reason to weep.

The real relevant point was that the "tax the rich" gag is just that - a gag.  The super-rich have the lawyers and loopholes to avoid the taxes.  The guys that end up paying the big tax bills are the middle class and small business guys who are just out there earning a living.  

You could have upped the estate tax to 99% and the Kennedy's wouldn't have been the ones that would be hurt by it - they've got the offshore trusts and foundations holding their cash.  On the other hand, the farmer holding a few thousand acres of nice real estate that's been in the family 50 years - his family gets a million dollar estate tax bill when grandpa dies.  Thats tax fairness?

If you really want to "tax the rich", then you should tax them like everybody else.  Do a flat tax with no deductions, or a Federal VAT so that everybody pays the same rate and I would bet that the total number of dollars paid into the system by the "rich" would suddenly skyrocket.  

The only problem I really see with it is that when the revenue skyrockets, the porkers in Congress will just spend that much more.

[john9001]

you were telling us where the money went, i was just helping you.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by EagleDNY
The real relevant point was that the "tax the rich" gag is just that - a gag.  The super-rich have the lawyers and loopholes to avoid the taxes.  The guys that end up paying the big tax bills are the middle class and small business guys who are just out there earning a living.  

I understand. But the whole Ted Kennedy thing is a bit of a "I don't like Ted Kennedy" distractor. Kinda like something irrelevant added to your relevancy.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by john9001
you were telling us where the money went, i was just helping you.

Not doing a very good job, though. Keep trying.

[john9001]

Originally posted by Arlo
Not doing a very good job, though. Keep trying.

i don't want to bore people with pages of text, so i will just post a link.
http://www.cagw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=reports_pigbook2007