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Offline projoe

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« on: November 20, 2007, 02:29:41 PM »
Its 367th squad night on monday's.  I sign in, orange arena is at max 320/320. So I jump in the blue arena.  Check where my squadies are, sure enough everyone is in orange.  After 15-20 min I'm able to get into orange arena.
We have a good squad night goin....then I get discoed.  Oh well happens every now and then.  Sign back up...orange arena has 286 players and max had been dropped to 220. 286/220.... No chance in heck I can get back with my squadies.
I sign in blue arena...play around in there for nearly an hour...where eny is over 20 most of the evening for knit players.  Check back to orange arena...its still 235/220...squad night shot for me because of continuous changes of max players in an arena.  Is there a logical reason why this happens?  Maybe some one can explain this to me?  Or an old thread that has a good explanation?
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 02:35:53 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 02:42:13 PM »
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Originally posted by projoe
Its 367th squad night on monday's.  I sign in, orange arena is at max 320/320. So I jump in the blue arena.  Check where my squadies are, sure enough everyone is in orange.  After 15-20 min I'm able to get into orange arena.
We have a good squad night goin....then I get discoed.  Oh well happens every now and then.  Sign back up...orange arena has 286 players and max had been dropped to 220. 286/220.... No chance in heck I can get back with my squadies.
I sign in blue arena...play around in there for nearly an hour...where eny is over 20 most of the evening for knit players.  Check back to orange arena...its still 235/220...squad night shot for me because of continuous changes of max players in an arena.  Is there a logical reason why this happens?  Maybe some one can explain this to me?  Or an old thread that has a good explanation?
Very frustrating :furious
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There are plenty of planes over 20 eny that are good rides. Heck theres even uber rides over 20 eny (Spit IX, La5). Complaining about eny is stupid, and Im getting tired of hearing it.




But, on the other hand. Skuzzy, out of curiousity, why are the arena caps like that? Not trying to be combative or anything, I just... whats the advantage to it?

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 02:43:24 PM »
How about giving us the MA back...

Oh snap.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2007, 02:48:48 PM by Kazaa »



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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 02:45:44 PM »
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I sign in blue arena...play around in there for nearly an hour...where eny is over 20 most of the evening for knit players.  ProJoe


It's really easy to change sides.

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 02:48:03 PM »
We all know that only cheaters, traitors & spies change sides, and that all planes with ENY > 10 are crap.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 02:58:05 PM »
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... whats the advantage to it?


it bothers me too when i cant join my friends, but the point of it?

well, there are multiple arenas right? so there is choice. how can choice be a bad thing?

so multi-arena is the way its going to be, or so we are told, so accept it. the reason for the rolling caps is surely to make sure that the choice you get is always worth joining, even a low amount of players in one LW arena will build up quickly because the other is capped.

I can agree for kazaa in that UK daytimes can mean you have a choice of one capped arena and three empty, not good then. As for US primetime, the only problem is not being able to join squad mates, and i think Steve said before....a good squad will all leave soon as possible and come to your arena just for you, if you desire them to.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 03:00:30 PM »
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We all know that only cheaters, traitors & spies change sides, and that all planes with ENY > 10 are crap.


:p

I do agree with others about the caps. It does get annoying and don't really see any reason for it. Well, of course its there so we wont all be in an arena, but it gets annoying when its about 90 over populated.. Get tha drift? :D
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 03:15:46 PM »
As far as eny...that doesn't bother me much...came from warbirds where they would use rps(rolling plane set).  So i do enjoy playing with the early warbirds some....My thought was the max was set on each arena to try and balance sides....as we see that is not the case.

From scuzzy's post:
The Aces High arenas use a dynamic or floating limit for the arenas where there are two, or more, of the same type. For instance, the two Late War arenas will show a limit that changes as the amount of players in these two arenas change.

The arena limits are governed as follows: As an example, if the Orange arena reaches a certain percentage of its maximum capacity, the server will adjust the Blue arena limit to a higher number. When the Blue arena reaches a certain percentage of its limit, then the Orange arena limit is raised. Conversely, the arena limits are also reduced in the same manner.

This gives the possibility of an arena limit being lower than the actual current number of players in that arena.



     Just trying to find out why the arena limits are governed?  Has it been tried to set each arena say at 500max players and leave it there and see what happens?
Sry, ive been away from the game until recently and this is the first time that I've been affected by this.  I'm use to being able to sign on and fly with my squad mates whenever I wanted...it seems this is not the case anymore.




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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 03:20:48 PM »
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As far as eny...that doesn't bother me much...came from warbirds where they would use rps(rolling plane set).  So i do enjoy playing with the early warbirds some....My thought was the max was set on each arena to try and balance sides....as we see that is not the case.

From scuzzy's post:
The Aces High arenas use a dynamic or floating limit for the arenas where there are two, or more, of the same type. For instance, the two Late War arenas will show a limit that changes as the amount of players in these two arenas change.

The arena limits are governed as follows: As an example, if the Orange arena reaches a certain percentage of its maximum capacity, the server will adjust the Blue arena limit to a higher number. When the Blue arena reaches a certain percentage of its limit, then the Orange arena limit is raised. Conversely, the arena limits are also reduced in the same manner.

This gives the possibility of an arena limit being lower than the actual current number of players in that arena.



     Just trying to find out why the arena limits are governed?  Has it been tried to set each arena say at 500max players and leave it there and see what happens?
Sry, ive been away from the game until recently and this is the first time that I've been affected by this.  I'm use to being able to sign on and fly with my squad mates whenever I wanted...it seems this is not the case anymore.




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Well, Clearly you've played aces high one. Well, maybe, your registered date says 2003, but I'm not sure if you played. The max use to be 750 people for THE Main Arena that we use to have. It never went over 400 so basically If we put the cap over 300 one arena will always be full and it would make Hitech's coad pointless. Goad nos we dont want that riigh? LOl:D
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 03:39:46 PM »
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The max use to be 750 people for THE Main Arena that we use to have. It never went over 400 so basically  



You haven't been playing for long.  There were many times that the numbers reached 700 and was usually in the +500 range during prime time and weekends in the old MA.


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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 03:40:23 PM »
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     Just trying to find out why the arena limits are governed?  Has it been tried to set each arena say at 500max players and leave it there and see what happens?
Sry, ive been away from the game until recently and this is the first time that I've been affected by this.  I'm use to being able to sign on and fly with my squad mates whenever I wanted...it seems this is not the case anymore.




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So you go to play.  First arena has 500/500 second arena has 20/500.  You going to join second?  I think not.  Let's just refresh and see if I can catch it when it reads 499/500 and 20/500.

So join the hoard in area 1 or milk runners in area 2.  Tough coin toss.

The rolling caps are a good way to balance the load although it would be good for the coad rules to change during off peak times.  Maybe at low peak it switches to one arena and then at peak times a second arena starts and caps are reset.  At the beginning of this though you could potentially have something like this:   280/120 and 1/170

It is frustrating when you can't get in with your squad but my squad always joins the player who is locked out.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 03:53:32 PM »
Yes, I played aces high I. Max players never changed in the Main.
Max players constantly changes now.
Again why not set the max for each arena, say at 320 and leave it there....if one arena is nearly full then come squad nite we would know to goto the arena with the least amount of players to make sure we could all join in together.
Still, not quite certain why max players is float/governed up and down?

Maybe i'm missin sumthin? maybe I hit my head to many times gettin shot down in this unbelievably addictive game. :)
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 03:56:17 PM »
The right of the players, to choose whatever arena they want to play in,  shall not be infringed.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 04:06:44 PM »
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You haven't been playing for long.  There were many times that the numbers reached 700 and was usually in the +500 range during prime time and weekends in the old MA.


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