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Offline Yknurd

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« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2007, 12:26:57 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2007, 01:13:02 PM »
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EVERY AIRPLANE in this Game (and in RL) has a little RED KNOB called mixture. You pull on that knob, the engine goes putt putt... Most of you commenting about this "Engine Cutter"  crap don't know this because your cartoon pilot status has your ego so big, that you think you know everything about airplanes right?
You mean mixture control LEVER?  The knob on top of the lever isn't always red either :)  I didn't see anyone question the ability to cut the engine in flight.  The question is if anyone would actually do that, if the implication was then having to go through start up proceedures while maneuvering under varying G loads, and not fracking it up in the process.
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« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2007, 01:29:26 PM »
Murdr, you obviously know a little about flying. You a RL pilot?

Oh, and Obviously I didn't Frack up my restart procedure :D ....or did you not watch the film?
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« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2007, 01:34:25 PM »
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Originally posted by bnasty
EVERY AIRPLANE in this Game (and in RL) has a little RED KNOB called mixture. You pull on that knob, the engine goes putt putt... Most of you commenting about this "Engine Cutter"  crap don't know this because your cartoon pilot status has your ego so big, that you think you know everything about airplanes right?

In RL, you have free will to cut off your engine(s) anytime, anywhere, for any reason.

Even if it's a dweeby thing to do in game, the point of this thread was to share a movie with our community and enjoy it. Not to start hating on people.

Thanks to those who did watch it. i hope you enjoyed.

Mathis
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What happens if you run into an engine malfuntion?? :p We don't have mixture in this game your thinking of IL-2...:aok Here It's just engine cutting its dweebish, noobish, and whatever else someone wants to call it. IN game that is.. Is it that hard to cut throttle without crashing?? :p
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« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2007, 01:45:01 PM »
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I don't think he was "pressed" to resort to doing anything remotely stupid.
I think you were wrong and are now just trying to back up something stupid you have said.


1. he wasn't trying to turn tighter.
2. if you overshoot on someone turning off their engine, you'd overshoot if they throttle back.


When I said 'pressed' a meant generally the people I see online and not bnasty in particular. Your 'thinking' too hard.

Yes I wish we had mixture control and pitch controls too and not the coupled throttle/mixture controls we have now.
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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2007, 01:56:06 PM »
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Did he collide with you at the end?
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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2007, 03:44:59 PM »
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2. if you overshoot on someone turning off their engine, you'd overshoot if they throttle back.


Can someone respond to that please?  Not just play devil's advocate either, but someone who actually believes this to be a problem?
Chalenge, you are welcomed to respond to this as well.

This is a good issue to bring up.
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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2007, 03:58:46 PM »
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Can someone respond to that please?  Not just play devil's advocate either, but someone who actually believes this to be a problem?
Chalenge, you are welcomed to respond to this as well.

This is a good issue to bring up.


Well, It is true that if you cut throttle you get the same effect, but some people just don't have the coordination i guess.... :D
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« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2007, 04:00:16 PM »
a guess it is.

I do not think it's a lack of coordination, but then again, you may have just said what you said for other reasons.
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« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2007, 04:11:58 PM »
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Did he collide with you at the end?
It looked like it in the film, but he passed right under me. He probably was blacked out from PW perhaps, cuz he just went into the drink...
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« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2007, 04:23:19 PM »
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Well, It is true that if you cut throttle you get the same effect, but some people just don't have the coordination i guess.... :D
That's a guess allright. I'm really not sure what you mean by not coordinated enough (I'm sure you said that for other reasons). Fly with me sometime and you might find out. I've only been playing this game for about a year. I do not think I'm in the wrong here.... I was fighting an a6m last night, he shut his engine off 3 times while I was fighting him. And a 4th time when I came back off the CV and engaged.

I just wanted people who don't often get a chance to play, to see some AH movies/footage. Further, I enjoy making them. That's what this thread was originally about.
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« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2007, 04:28:21 PM »
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I recall someone testing it quite some time ago to really find and those were the results.  Widewing perhaps?


Yeah, I tested it a while back. Killing the engine results in more drag than just throttling back, so you bleed E faster. At least it worked that way back when I tested it...

I'll test it again.

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« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2007, 04:29:52 PM »
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That's a guess allright. I'm really not sure what you mean by not coordinated enough (I'm sure you said that for other reasons). Fly with me sometime and you might find out. I've only been playing this game for about a year. I do not think I'm in the wrong here.... I was fighting an a6m last night, he shut his engine off 3 times while I was fighting him. And a 4th time when I came back off the CV and engaged.

I just wanted people who don't often get a chance to play, to see some AH movies/footage. Further, I enjoy making them. That's what this thread was originally about.


I thank you for your film, but I have to say cutting engine Is a dweebish move.. Just cut throttle the throttle lol. I'm saying people that can't cut throttle without looking down arn't coordinated. That's just my opinion though......
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« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2007, 04:32:43 PM »
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Yeah, I tested it a while back. Killing the engine results in more drag than just throttling back, so you bleed E faster. At least it worked that way back when I tested it...

I'll test it again.

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« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2007, 04:41:37 PM »
Ok, offline test of the P-51B...

Deceleration time from 350 mph TAS to 200 mph at 100 feet ASL.

Engine off: 26.54 seconds

Throttle to idle: 26.56 seconds

No difference whatsoever. Killing the engine gains you nothing. So, Urchin was correct.

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