Originally posted by Frostbitee
I gather you are also from Mexico legally. Then you of all people should know how difficult it is obtain a visa from INS when you have no family in USA, zero education, and lack of financial funds.
Last time I checked we all bleed, cry and breath the same air. Which makes us all what? HUMAN. It is mankind who makes laws and names for what to call someone. You say anyone would have done what he did, wish that were true. This is a man entering the USA illegally. He could have gone to the vehicle, tried to remove the mother from the car, make sure the kid was warm and left. He chose to end his journey with knowing he was going to jail. Alot of US citizens would not do that.
My beliefs that god works in mysterious ways is not argueable by no means. A family is in the middle of a desert with a wrecked car and noone shows until 8AM the next morning to rescue them. This 9 yr old boy is wandering around disorientated for couple hours and just stumbles upon this man trying to enter the USA illegally. Do you think he stopped to say, "wait show me your a legal citizen?"
If you were in a accident and unable to pull yourself out of the car, a man comes up to offer assistance, you going to say, "show me your ID?" You have a child in the hospital in need of a kidney and the Doctor tells you they have a match from a child who entered the country illegally, you going to say wait, it is here illegally, take it back to Mexico? Seems conveniece is when one becomes human and not termed as illegal.
All wrong Frost. I'm french born from south american and indian ocean parents, equal parts french, venezuelan, inca, creole. I was brought up in more or less equal parts in France, Canada, and the USA. All of my immediate relatives except one (divorced parents) are in the US permanently, I'm not there only because of a bureaucratic screw up.
I know not only how hard it is to move to the US, I also know first hand the burden that illegals are. I knew a lot of them first hand, worked with them, helped them raise their kids, round off their months so same kids could live in decent conditions... leant them money, which one couple ran away with - literaly hit the road overnight.
I know what it's like when you've got a nearly lethal medical problem and can't be treated because enough illegals are ahead of you on the line. I know first hand both sides of illegals involvement in traffic accidents, when they run off and when they've been hit and run the risk of not being treated properly because they are illegal. I've seen them work on Arizona highways like slave labor negligibly different from labor teams from prisons...
None of that is excuses breaking the law, when solutions to those problems are not just available where they were before illegaly coming over, but when the solution wouldn't be necessary if they hadn't come over as they did in the first place.
I've also seen a lot of identity theft by them, SS#'s of legal residents being used by them to sign contracts...
That not everyone would do what this guy did is true. But you have to take my meaning: it is not anything special. Considering a bell curve distribution of good and bad actions by an average population, what tacohead (
) did was barely above average. It's akin to holding the door for someone with glass bone disease. You may have saved his life, but you didn't increase risk to your own by doing it. This guy was already (although that's arguable, there's probably a wide variance of difficulty depending on what path you take across the border) risking his life.
In any case it's not that heroic. Even if it were, it's independent from the fact that he's adding his bit to the huge immigration problem. Just because you rob a bank to feed your starving children doesn't make you heroic. You're still a criminal, you still could have gotten a job or done something similarly honest and actualy EARNED what you stole.
And like I said he'll go to jail... come out (especialy considering the big media spotlight he's gotten), and be free to cross over again as many times as he likes.
I have no idea what the point of your next paragraph is. You go from saying faith is arguable (nothing rational about it, no proof or disproof possible), to God working in mysterious ways (what's that got to do with anything?), to pointing out that beggars can't be choosers.... Same thing in the following paragraph.
What are you trying to argue?
Nothing that excuses illegals being treated as legals, as far as I can tell. Your belief doesn't stand up to reason.
To answer your question though, I'd have probably taken the guy's help and reported him for deportation as soon as he's out of the desert's danger.
Now tell me how crossing over the border illegaly, adding to the already immense burden on multiple aspects (criminaly, medicaly, professionaly... you could also look for recent posts by x0847Marine for illustrated examples) magicaly because an excuse for itself?
"One wrong makes a right"?
