Killer Teddy (latest idiocy)

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Arlo
My apologies for lack of perception, thusly.

Let me contend, then, that a faith, belief, philosophy or religion need not be the actual culprit when those who profess following one of them exhibits behavior counter to said belief.

Nobody's perfect. Well, excepting of course the focus of some religions, like Christianity. Some have less shame in their lack of living up to their ideals than others. For the record, though it may seem contrary, I don't advocate this position.

[Arlo]

As polite and mature as the conversation has become, I suddenly laughed at how stuffy it comes across.

Well I'm just never happy.

[SirLoin]

Originally posted by Arlo
To what extent Islamist terrorists are motivated by religious belief is disputed. Robert Pape, author of the book Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism, has argued that at least terrorists utilizing suicide-homicide attacks -- a particularly effective[52] form of terrorist attack -- are driven by nationalism, not Islam.
[53]

That's utter crap..The ONLY reason islamist suicide bombers blow themselves up is so they can be raptured up into heaven(they get to skip judgement day)..72 virgins rivers of milk & honey etc.It has nothing to do with nationalism(why are muslims killing muslims,blowing up mosques?)

Try reading Sam Harris or Christipher Hitchens.

[SirLoin]

Originally posted by KgB
With pedophile spiritual adviser of our dearest president and homosexual tendencies of our current Republican party that supposed to be concerned with moralistic issues and religion Christianity deserves to be insulted

Actually,all religions deserve to be ridculed..Especially Islam.

Mocking a person's faith is not the same as mocking the person..Race is NOT the same as religion.

Challenging a religion employs rationality & reason based on fact or evidence....Two things faith based people are told to toss out the window(with regard to their faith).

Blind leading the blind.

[Swoop]

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by SirLoin
That's utter crap..The ONLY reason islamist suicide bombers blow themselves up is so they can be raptured up into heaven(they get to skip judgement day)..72 virgins rivers of milk & honey etc.It has nothing to do with nationalism(why are muslims killing muslims,blowing up mosques?)

Try reading Sam Harris or Christipher Hitchens.

I'd say the mullahs' just use that to try to sweeten the deal...They would have suicide-bombed by the millions, if that was the only reason.

[FrodeMk3]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Actually,all religions deserve to be ridculed..Especially Islam.

Mocking a person's faith is not the same as mocking the person..Race is NOT the same as religion.

Challenging a religion employs rationality & reason based on fact or evidence....Two things faith based people are told to toss out the window(with regard to their faith).

Blind leading the blind.

Maybe scientology over Islam. And history has shown, that desecrating a shrine has shown to be the sort of mortal insult that...well...causes Saladin to retake Jerusalem, for example. Try going to a Southern Baptist Church on a Sunday morning, and telling everyone going inside what you find inconsistent and ridicule their faith. Make sure that an ambulance is standing by.

You can argue religion, if you are careful to make your points based on logic. However, if you openly ridicule them, be prepared for a battle.

[wrag]

This claims to express what it FEELS like to be flogged..........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=496844&in_page_id=1811

[Arlo]

Originally posted by SirLoin
That's utter crap..The ONLY reason islamist suicide bombers blow themselves up is so they can be raptured up into heaven(they get to skip judgement day)..72 virgins rivers of milk & honey etc.It has nothing to do with nationalism(why are muslims killing muslims,blowing up mosques?)

Try reading Sam Harris or Christipher Hitchens.

Take it up with the author of the circa 2000 text.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by SirLoin
Actually,all religions deserve to be ridculed..Especially Islam.

Mocking a person's faith is not the same as mocking the person..Race is NOT the same as religion.

Challenging a religion employs rationality & reason based on fact or evidence....Two things faith based people are told to toss out the window(with regard to their faith).

Blind leading the blind.

A person's faith is everybit as much a part of them as their race. Saying one or the other is an exception to how much respect you afford them is bogus. Challenging the way they practice their faith is another thing.

[BaldEagl]

When I saw Killer Teddy I was thinking something more along these lines:

[indy007]

Originally posted by Arlo
A person's faith is everybit as much a part of them as their race. Saying one or the other is an exception to how much respect you afford them is bogus. Challenging the way they practice their faith is another thing.

Uhm, no. Faith is ideas indoctrinated from an early age (not always, but mostly). Race is based on chromosomes and ancestry. One is ideas you've been taught. One is part of your body. Huge difference.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by indy007
Uhm, no. Faith is ideas indoctrinated from an early age (not always, but mostly). Race is based on chromosomes and ancestry. One is ideas you've been taught. One is part of your body. Huge difference.

Um, yes. Ones philosophy and biology comprise the total being. You deciding which part you're allowed to ridicule, genralizing and applying that to an entire religion and not condemniing the actual fault, which is the perversion of practice, is bogus. That makes it just as much a form of bigotry as racism.

It would be like me saying you're a bad person because you're a Jew (if you practiced Judaism) and not because you used Judaism as an excuse to practice terrorism. Using SirLoin's example, he's as bad as what he mocks.

WTG.

[saad]

What you people cannot stomach is that somebody has enough conviction to get mad over something so seemingly insignificant... The start of something big is always small.

I congratulate the Sudanese.

[Rollins]

Not seemingly insignificant-it is completely insignificant.  It's a stuffed child's toy.  Named by children.  Nothing more.  Yeah, we need something big to kick off over in Sudan, glad you congratulate them.  On what?  The janjaweed militia slaughtering the civilian tribes with a government stamp of approval?  Yeah we stand corrected, they really got it nailed down over there.