Author Topic: Flugwerke 109D9 engine runs (Read 2456 times)

Guppy35 · « **on:** December 12, 2007, 08:34:26 PM »

New build 190D9 with an Allison engine. From Tom Blair's collection in Florida. Test flights soon

He has 2 Spits, a 4 Cannon Tropical Vc and a Spitfire IX. In fact I think he has a Spit 14 too. He also has two Flugwerke 190s an A8 and this D9 to go with other warbirds.

Must be nice to be rich

Link to the engine run
http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/gardnerpilot/?action=view¤t=Dec07132.flv

moot · « **Reply #1 on:** December 12, 2007, 08:48:36 PM »

Thanks a bunch Guppy!

..... but an Allison engine??

Octavius · « **Reply #2 on:** December 12, 2007, 09:01:59 PM »

^ A million P40s just came.

jon · « **Reply #3 on:** December 12, 2007, 09:24:22 PM »

I am not a fan of 190'S but that pic is so sexy!Exept for lack of guns.

JB73 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2007, 10:58:37 PM »

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M U S T ... H A V E ... N O W

I heard they were talking about one, and started a bit of work... now I MUST win the lottery. Damn the huge prop spinning is sexy!

moot · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2007, 11:19:40 PM »

If you win the lottery, I'll come work for you as machine shop chief and we'll get in the LW kit plane biz... The first thing we'll do is machine a real DB engine for that 190D you'll buy.

An Allison in a 190D9.. wow.

I guess the possible good news is we could get some kind of extra data about the 190D9's aerobatic performance.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2007, 11:45:27 PM »

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Originally posted by moot
If you win the lottery, I'll come work for you as machine shop chief and we'll get in the LW kit plane biz... The first thing we'll do is machine a real DB engine for that 190D you'll buy.

An Allison in a 190D9.. wow.

I guess the possible good news is we could get some kind of extra data about the 190D9's aerobatic performance.

Not to worry, Paul Allen has the 190D12 and thats in line for restoration to fly as well.

One of the Flugwerk 190D9s is going to have a real DB603 also

Hajo · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2007, 12:20:24 AM »

D9 used I believe a Jumo engine. Usually used in the Ju88 etc.

I believe it was the Jumo2213A water methanol boosted 2,240hp.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2007, 12:26:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Hajo
D9 used I believe a Jumo engine. Usually used in the Ju88 etc.

I believe it was the Jumo2213A water methanol boosted 2,240hp.

My mistake, Jumo 213. Apparenlty the White 1 foundation has a couple of the Jumo's too.

Xasthur · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2007, 01:06:00 AM »

It would be interesting to try and get some data about these stunning aircraft for our personal use here.

From what I've read of the Dora, both by German and American reports, the Dora was more than a match for the P-51 D.

This is sadly far from the truth in-game. Put two equal pilots in a Dora and Delta and the Dora has no chance in an even fight.

crockett · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2007, 03:31:33 AM »

A quick search of his name in google brings up this.. must be one of his spits.

http://www.targeta.co.uk/pages/071_7421w5.htm

source page

and this appears to be the spit14.

http://www.military-airshows.co.uk/duxfordsept2006/img_1237.jpg

source page

must be nice

Charge · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2007, 05:16:59 AM »

Great pic and link! Thx Guppy.

-C+

Viking · « **Reply #12 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:16:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Xasthur
This is sadly far from the truth in-game. Put two equal pilots in a Dora and Delta and the Dora has no chance in an even fight.

I can't agree with that. As long as you keep the fight at or below 20k feet the Dora is superior to the Pony in all regimes of flight. The Dora even out-turns the Pony using flaps (just barely).

moot · « **Reply #13 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:21:28 PM »

No.. The D9 doesn't turn sustained with the 51D.

Viking · « **Reply #14 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:27:18 PM »

According to Gonzo's fighter comparison tables it does. 633 feet radius for the Pony with flaps, and 627 feet for the Dora.

http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php

In any case, turning against the Pony is not what I would have done. I would have used the Dora's vastly superior climb rate to build up and E advantage.