CIA jet crashes with 4 tons coke onboard

[crockett]

Originally posted by BBBB
That aircraft belongs to Donna Blue Aircraft Inc out of Coconut Creek, FL. http://donnablueaircraft.com/index.html As much as I don't like to agree with Golfer, this is a sleazy company. There are a lot of people that say this company is a front for the CIA. Except this is a really sloppy job if this is a front. So I don't buy that whole "CIA front" business.
 
 My question is; who owns this plane? The owners of DBA can't be found. The office of DBA is empty. There is a jet that until it went down was a regular flier all over the US. No answers bothers me. However, I am far from going conspiracy theory and claiming the CIA/DEA had anything to do with this. If they want heroin they don't have to go to Mexico to get it. They can have all they want in Afghanistan.

N987SA Flight Status

That's pretty much what the article I posted said. That's what brings it all into question in regards to the CIA involvement. This plane has been identified in the lawsuit against the US govt in regards to whats going on at GitMo in Cuba. The plane has been used in the past by the CIA to ferry detainees to Cuba.

Now if the Chatter service is a front for the CIA who knows, but I believe one or both of the owners did have links to the US govt.  Then you have the shady sale and no records until after the crash. So there are a lot of things that don't add up here.

The CIA has a history of this kinda stuff  and has a well known history of being involved in drug smuggling in the past. So with the fact that they "have" done it before and have been caught, well it's not that big of a stretch to link them into this.

Now on the other hand, maybe they aren't involved and had only chartered the jet at one point to carry some prisoners.

One thing is for certian we do have stuff going on under the radar in south America. Back before 9/11 I had a pretty good connection through a job I used to have and a family friend. If I would have been able to get into pilot training via the US army reserves, I was going to end up working as a pilot for a private company. This company did work for the US govt in south America. Some of their work was on the up and up and some of it was on the down low.

I do know for a fact that we have stuff going on  in South America and I wouldn't put it past the CIA to run drugs to fund some of these black programs. After all they have done it in the past.

[crockett]

Originally posted by SIG220
Keep in mind, though, that the website that story is appearing on also believes Nancy Pelosi to be a right-winger, in bed with Bush.

A legitimate reporter investigated their claims, and came up with the following:

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/12/15/drug-running-jet-becomes-cia-torture-plane-in-the-blink-of-an-eye/

Now you can see why all of the mainstream press are not reporting this story.   It is bogus.

SIG 220

How anyone could consider mensnewsdaily as a legit is beyond me.. They 100% worse than Fox news. MND is nothing more than a outlet for the Religious Right to pretend to cover news and push their own slanted views.

[RedTop]

Originally posted by Viking
I would not torture you ... I would kill you. In that situation that would be the quickest and best resolution to my problem.

Actually those that are cutting peoples heads off are more civilized than you guys who condone torture. I hope you get what's coming to you.

Wow....thats really all that can be said.....Wow

[AKIron]

Waterboarding is no worse than reading some of the posts in this forum.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by crockett
or is it the CIA selling drugs once again to fiance their war in south America?

When did they stop?

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by crockett
Funny you say that..

It was originally reported to have 7 tons of coke and 1 ton of Heron. The tonnage kept getting re reported until there was zero Heron and something like 3.7 tons of coke.

Read the article.

1 ton of Heron?   That's a chitload of

[Dago]

So, if the CIA did charter a jet once, does that mean by default the CIA is then responsible for all activities the jet leasing company does in the future, legal or illegal?

If you rent a car from Hertz while on a trip, are you then responsible for anything illegal that should happen with that car in the future?

[Arlo]

Originally posted by AKIron
Waterboarding is no worse than reading some of the posts in this forum.

And the number of times you've experienced waterboarding would be? Get creative.

[crockett]

Originally posted by Dago
So, if the CIA did charter a jet once, does that mean by default the CIA is then responsible for all activities the jet leasing company does in the future, legal or illegal?

If you rent a car from Hertz while on a trip, are you then responsible for anything illegal that should happen with that car in the future?

No but lets get real here.. I'm pretty sure the CIA isn't just going to go rent a jet from someone whom they don't have a clue about. To then transport prisoners whom are supposedly so dangerous they they can destroy our freedoms.

If you rent a car from Hertz if it does happen to break down, it's pretty unlikely that it will result in a crash in the middle of the Atlantic ocean.

So considering the risks involved I'd bet, the CIA most likely had a fairly reasonable understanding of whom owned and operated the jet when they used it.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Arlo
And the number of times you've experienced waterboarding would be? Get creative.

Many times



Not me though

[Irwink!]

I've been kind of outta the loop for awhile so to speak. So how do I go about scoring some of that heron stuff? How do I ingest it for best results? Any side effects to be aware of?

[Arlo]

Originally posted by AKIron
Many times



Not me though

Ahhhh .... opinion without actual experience. Noted as.  

I find the alternative "black and white ... no, now it's grey" moral judgement of some political spheres a bit too convenient for their own purpose. Prior to the Bush administration there was no question about what was right or wrong when it came to our own practices regarding torture and the Geneva convention (which we never felt prone to openly and proudly discard at a whim). We certainly didn't try to excuse lowering our standards by comparing them to the enemy's. The UCMJ made it most clear how we were supposed to keep our standards above a certain level. CIA kept their dirt in the dark (and apparently they were better at it then).

I know what right is and, unfortunately (and ironically), there's quite a few on the right who may claim so but they're not very good at proving it.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Arlo
Ahhhh .... opinion without actual experience. Noted as.  
 

Ahhhh .... humor impaired. Noted.

[Arlo]

If it was a good joke it would have been appreciated as such. Keep working on that.

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Arlo
If it was a good joke it would have been appreciated as such. Keep working on that.

Stop, I'm drowning.