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« on: December 29, 2007, 08:36:57 PM »
I was flying the Seafire and the Spit 9 for the first time today, and I discovered that they were both very good airplanes. I have looked on the fighter comparison website and the Spits seem like very good airplanes. I was wondering if any one could tell me which Spitfires are the better in terms of turning, speed, and weaoponry. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2007, 08:41:28 PM »
Do you mean this comparison website?

If yes, it should have told you you the basic performance differences at a glance.
If not, go there ;)
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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 08:49:09 PM »
Well all are ze EZ mode planes, but i'd go with the spit 9, just because of the extra range from the DT + the awesome looking desert, red nose skin :D .


Hope latrobe doesn't catch me saying i fly spits, he'll never let me live it down :rofl !

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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 09:03:11 PM »
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Well all are ze EZ mode planes,  


I wouldn't call the AH2 Spitfire I an EZ mode plane ;)
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2007, 09:24:53 PM »
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I wouldn't call the AH2 Spitfire I an EZ mode plane ;)


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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2007, 09:55:27 PM »
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I wouldn't call the AH2 Spitfire I an EZ mode plane ;)


Aw cmon now lusche, even you have noticed the heli 16 :D .

goes from 0-10k in 30 seconds :rofl

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2007, 09:59:22 PM »
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Aw cmon now lusche, even you have noticed the heli 16 :D .

goes from 0-10k in 30 seconds :rofl


He was talking about the Spit1. :huh
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2007, 10:00:05 PM »
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He was talking about the Spit1. :huh


Indeed I was.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2007, 10:34:32 PM »
WHOOPS :o .

Miss read it :( .

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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2007, 12:32:31 AM »
Spitfire Mk VIII, the most refined of the Merlin Spits.
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2007, 04:32:12 AM »
Forget the Spit and fly a Zero. :aok
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2007, 05:08:39 AM »
In general terms the earlier Spit marks are lighter and so turn better (lower wing loading). The later marks have more power and so have better climb, acceleration and speed.

The Spit Mk I has 8 .303 inch machine guns which are only marginally effective at close range and useless at long range. It has an early single speed Merlin engine which cuts out when you push the stick forward (negative Gs). It has poor aileron response at high speeds. It is outclassed in the late war arena but can give a nasty surprise to anyone flying a later mark of Spit that tries to outturn it.

The Mark Vb Spit has a two speed supercharged Merlin which gives more power. It can outturn any fighter except a Hurricane, a Spit Mk I or a Zero. It is still slower than just about anything else you will meet in the arena though. The Vb like all the later Spits has better aileron response than the I and no neg G cut out problems. The two Hispano cannons are probably the best guns in the game, powerful and accurate. They have a limited supply of ammo though.

The Seafire is basically a Mk Vb with a hook. Its a little bit heavier, so not quite as good.

The Mark IX Spit has a two stage supercharger which gives more power, particularly at altitude. It is a fair bit faster and climbs better than the Vb, but turns a bit worse.

The Mark VIII carries more fuel than the IX and has a more powerful Merlin. This is the Spit that causes the most problems for my F6F.

The Mark XIV uses a more powerful, but much heavier Griffon engine rather than the Merlin. This Spit performs very well at very high altitudes. It has tricky low speed handling so is best used as a boom and zoom machine.

The Mark XVI is essentially a 1944 Mark IX. Unlike our 1942 era Mark IX it has a Merlin tuned for more power at low altitudes. It also used higher octane fuel which allowed it to run a lot more boost than the Mk IX. This makes it perform much better in terms of speed, acceleration and climb, particurlarly at the altitudes that arena fights tend to take place at. The XVI also features clipped wingtips giving better roll response at the expense of some turning ability. Two handy 0.5 inch guns replace the fairly useless 303 inch guns as secondary armanent.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2007, 06:01:20 AM »
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The Mark VIII carries more fuel than the IX and has a more powerful Merlin. This is the Spit that causes the most problems for my F6F.


Two  questions for you big master of Hellcats from a new Hellcat fan:

1) The F4U-1A is a problem for you 1vs1 with = E and how fight  against  this anti-stall plane?

2) Best book about F6F?


and sorry for my english.

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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2007, 06:58:08 AM »
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Aw cmon now lusche, even you have noticed the heli 16 :D .
goes from 0-10k in 30 seconds :rofl


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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2007, 08:40:01 AM »
Co E, if the F4U-1A pilot is any good, I'm pretty much screwed. In AH2 the 1A has a slightly better instantaneous and sustained turn rate and is faster. Its the instantaneous turn rate of the F6F that lets me turn inside fast Spits, but against an F4U I can rarely get the first shot in on the second merge even if I lead turn him. After that I'm into a scissors and just hoping he screws up. The AH2 F4U is more stable than the F6F in a low speed fight which doesn't seem right given their RL reputations. Riding the stall horn with flaps out, the Hellcat can get into a weird stall which takes a lot of alt to recover from.

To be honest, I've not read a good book on the Hellcat. The ones I've got are Squadron or Osprey books which give a good overview of types and history, but which were bought as sources for skinning projects (lots of profiles etc).

Sorry if this is hijacking your topic OSU.
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