Ok, Serious Problem Guys

[DoNKeY]

Alright, so today I went out and bough a new controller, an x52, I'm sure you're all familiar with it.  Anyways, I hooked it up tonight, set what basic functions to various buttons that I needed, and took off to see what it was like.  Went to the DA to just mess around.

I'm not kidding when I say I felt like throwing up.  I hope it's just because it's a new and different controller...  Nothing is where it should be (obviously), but it feels like everything is out of place, and where it used to be was just perfect.  I can't fly at all!  The stick is nothing like my other one.  Its way to light, the simplest move sends me flying every which way.  

For example, I got into a fight/furball, and eventually was behind a 109 going vertical.  He was in an almost straight up zoom to the right a little, about d500ish id guess, full profile.  Easy enough shot for the 38.  I went to click my zoom button (which after my old stick feels like its in the worst place) and then when I lined up for the right lead, my nose bounced everywhere.  It takes absolutely no pressure to move it.

Basically I'm asking is it just going to take time to get used to it?  I feel like I'm a two-weeker all over again, and that I should hope in a LA-7 or Pony it's that bad.  I'm really considering keeping the throttle and dumping the stick for my old  av8r.

What should I do?

Thanks,
donkey

[Geary420]

What should you do?  Fly some more.  Every time I've changed what model stick I use I get the same sensation.  You just have take a couple days to adjust, it just feels awkward at first because you have to consciously think about what you are doing.  Once you get acclimated it will be second nature.

[Angrist]

I switched from a Saitek Evo FF stick to the X52 in December, and I'm just now getting used to it.   It screwed me up for a good while.

But...it's nice having everything at my finger tips now.  It takes some practice, cause like you, it felt light when I first got it.  Now, it's not so bad.

Give it time...it will come.

[Ghosth]

Changing to a new joystick is like learning to fly all over again.

Which is why I keep buying good MS sidewinders off ebay so I won't ever have to switch.

Give yourself a month, fly mainly in the TA, go back to BASICS. ie Spit 5/seafire go back and relearn how to turn, lead, everything.

A bit of fine tuning can help that nose bounce, although to me 38's have a tendancy to do that anyway, which accelerates the problem.

[Krusty]

Originally posted by Ghosth
Changing to a new joystick is like learning to fly all over again.

Quoted for truth.

I have an MS Sidewinder. I used to fly with both hands on the stick. One on the stick, one on the base. My left fingers would hit the buttons (instant flaps, gear, other stuff) and my thumb would be on the throttle at all times, except to jab the button below it for "zoom toggle."

I even had 2 modes mapped with a toggle button so I could instantly double my buttons on the stick.

Then I got a CH Throttle Quadrant. 6 axis levers, 6 2-way buttons. I thought I really couldn't use it at all. It just wasn't comfortable. Now I wouldn't go back. Not only do I have 2 engines and 2 RPMs mapped, I've got elevator and ailerons mapped. I hardly use any of the buttons on the sidewinder anymore, as my left hand rests on the throttle and I reach down with my thumb to hit the buttons as needed.

At first I really didn't like to map the aileron trim, but then when I got used to it I really started liking it. Without using auto trim (which reduces elevator authority in many planes I fly) I can keep the nose trimmed up/down for my perfect shot.

NOW I'm happy with it. At the time I set it up I really was dejected that it wasn't working out like I wanted. The thing is I just needed to re-learn how to do it. Now I wouldn't go back to what I had before, but when I first set it up I had dark thoughts about stowing the quadrant and going back to 2-hands-on-the-Sidewinder.

[BaldEagl]

I've got a MS Sidewinder 3D Pro.  My brother came over during the holidays and brought his laptop and his Logitec stick and we played with MS Flight Sim X.  I was like... wtf!... it was hard to change sticks (especially as I'm left handed and that stick is built for a right-hander).  I was using both hands to control it the way I wanted to but I did ok with it and I'm sure after time I'd get used to it.

[SlapShot]

I switched from the Cougar to CH ... and felt the same way ... hang in there and in no time, your new controls will feel like you were born with them.

[stroker71]

I feel your pain.  I got the x52 for xmas and have been messing with settings ever since.  Look for posts about scaling and dead band...it'll help.  I get the nose bounce too but moving my dead band up some it has helped.  Gotta love all those buttons....don't have to touch the keyboard much at all anymore.

[Alky]

I had the X45 (?), the one before the X52, between the nose bounce and the squeaky spring, I buried it in the closet.  I bit the bullet and went for the whole CH Pro set, what a difference, smooth and no bounce.  The CO thought I lost my mind spending that much to play a game

[DoNKeY]

It's not so much nose bounce just as that the controller is so light that the slightest touch (because I'm used to my other controller being stiffer) moves the stick a long ways which causes me to way overshoot everything.

[Redlegs]

I'm getting that too.

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[Krusty]

If the stick is that sensitive, set up some scaling in AH to lessen the effect of the center-area stick movement. I've made a post about scaling some time ago, it should be in the help and training forum named "having problems aiming?" or something like that.

EDIT: here:
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=207346

Might help, might not.

[DoNKeY]

Yeah I already have it scaled, but I'll go back and read that, and see if changing it helps any.  Thanks.

donkey

[Hungry]

The funny thing is the easy touch is why I like the X52 and once you get used to it you will think your wrestling with aligators if you have to go back to the old stick.

I had a CH combat stick for the longest time and when I went to the X52 it did feel light and flimsy.  But the funny part came when I moved the CH stick to the basement for storage I couldnt believe how clunky and stiff it felt.

Hang in when you get used to the more sensitive stick you will begin to appreciate it.  You wont have to over compensate the grip to get it to do what you want it to.

[Spikes]

HA! This ain't no serious problem...at least your X52 works!
Mine doesn't.