Author Topic: Jerry Crandall's Dora book (Read 4091 times)

moot · « **Reply #60 on:** January 14, 2008, 09:06:36 AM »

Just one scan Bodhi?

Bodhi · « **Reply #61 on:** January 14, 2008, 11:55:35 PM »

got the CD late this afternoon for the drivers... why they could not email it was beyond me. Should be back up tomorrow.

Wotan · « **Reply #62 on:** January 15, 2008, 02:26:37 PM »

Luftwaffe im Focus Edition No. 13 has a photo of 'newly-discovered photo of Ta 152 H-0, "White 7", W. Nr. 150007.'

I don't have Issue 13 but you want to inquire here:

Ta 152 H-0 photo in "LW im Focus #13"

moot · « **Reply #63 on:** January 15, 2008, 05:29:14 PM »

Woohoo!

One more.
Thanks Wotan.

I have in my notes that WN 007 was also a Black 3 at some point...

Stampf · « **Reply #64 on:** January 15, 2008, 05:34:12 PM »

The one image of a Stab/JG11 Ta152 I have found. I can not however (yet), verify the artists source.

moot · « **Reply #65 on:** January 15, 2008, 06:25:25 PM »

WN 150007 is visible on two pictures of Peltz' inspection visit to JG301, in Harmann's book. Its caption says the plane is labeled "Black 3".
The serial on the rudder definitely ends in 07, but the number before that is hidden.. I don't remember the exact serial number allocations, but it went as high as 168 or so. The picture is dated mid march '45, and IIRC production ended sometime in february. I might be wrong on that, but if not there's only two possibilities, 007 or 107.

Stampf · « **Reply #66 on:** January 15, 2008, 06:29:57 PM »

007 was certainly "Black 3" at one point in time. Even with the numerous Wk# to a/c "mistakes" made, and discovered more and more with time, multiple sources make 007 "Black 3" for part of her service life.

moot · « **Reply #67 on:** January 15, 2008, 06:32:31 PM »

Stampf, do you have any info on any 152H numbered "Black 14"?

Stampf · « **Reply #68 on:** January 15, 2008, 06:46:49 PM »

Not an H, no. Off the top, I believe it is one of the Stab/JG26 rides. A "one of a kind" Ta152C flown by Classen I think, maybe Katz. Maybe both, they were a formidable pair and getting those 2 or 3 Ta's into the Stab was Major Goetz's doing. He brought those two men to the Stab for the sole purpose of winging together in the Ta.

I don't think there is any known photo's of the 26th rides, yet discovered Moot, only some pilot logs and memoirs on the subject. Let me dig around for something more solid for ya.

moot · « **Reply #69 on:** January 15, 2008, 06:52:48 PM »

I've only seen a Black 14 on the Wings Palette profile, and that's listed as a JG301 152-H. I thought it'd make a good skin as it's a shades of grey scheme.
Let me know what you find

moot · « **Reply #70 on:** January 17, 2008, 09:17:53 AM »

Bump!

Wotan · « **Reply #71 on:** January 17, 2008, 09:27:39 AM »

AHF - Focke-Wulf Ta 152. Only one survived!

Moot did you get that template from Goodwood?

moot · « **Reply #72 on:** January 17, 2008, 10:00:29 AM »

I did, and thanks for that link.. I had most of these already but some were new

That Erich is the guy that's supposed to put out a book on JG301. It's not due for a year more by the looks of it, though. It's a shame, because he says he's got info on all the unknowns brought up so far in all the Ta152 threads I've found on the net.

VonMessa · « **Reply #73 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:48:58 PM »

Moot, I've got a skin I'm workin on so der Stampfenfurher has another one for the stable. I'm less than an artist visually. I'm more of a music guy, hence the DJ business. (Give me your demo's from your band and I'll gold plate it though) I've got panel and rivet lines, and most of the basics if you want to finish it. I have been trying to get refs for the paint.

I'm not proud, and I wont cry in meine beir if it doesn't end up saying xxxx by VonMessa. I just wanted a JG11 TA fur die Gruppe. I'll send it to you layers and all if you like. It might even get finished faster that way.

I have no concrete facts at hand, but.....

If I'm not mistaken the National Air and Space Museum has one of Kurt Tank's finest in its collection (maybe the one we are talking about here) that used to have some disgusting British roundels on it (no offense to our friends across the pond, but you wouldn't put a Ford Oval where the Chevy bowtie belongs... blasphemy) When they went about restoring it they removed the "re-paint" job and found the original markings, paint, swastika, etc. I believe the Reichsdefense band they uncovered was solid yellow which would make it a JG11 ride.

Anyone please correct me if I am wrong. As I said, I have no facts at hand, and I am at work right now.

Let me know about the skin, Moot. The faster it gets finished, the more sleep I will get at night, and the more I will accomplish at work (shhhhh, don't tell the boss)

-Dan

moot · « **Reply #74 on:** January 17, 2008, 06:26:01 PM »

Sure, you can send it to me. I'll only be able to start working on it in about a week, though.