Author Topic: Flaps? (Read 1233 times)

BaldEagl · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2008, 11:09:09 AM »

You almost never need flaps in a Spit. Maybe 1-2% of engagements.

I agree with the recommendation to try the F6F if you want to learn flap usage. It's a good plane without them and exceptional with them. Take off without ord and 50-75% fuel depending on how far you're going. Flaps engage one notch every 25 mph starting at 250 mph.

The Ki-84 is also a good, flap-dependent bird to learn with.

RoGenT · « **Reply #16 on:** January 14, 2008, 02:37:31 PM »

Although I didn't end up winning this 1vs1. I actually got into great fight with KI-84; I scored some good hits but finally end up kissing trees. I didn't realized it at the time but I actually had flaps fully down. How I didn't stall completely is odd. I wouldn't suggest full flaps down though

I been playing for while and I'm still learning the pony

SlapShot · « **Reply #17 on:** January 14, 2008, 02:53:39 PM »

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Originally posted by BaldEagl
You almost never need flaps in a Spit. Maybe 1-2% of engagements.

I agree with the recommendation to try the F6F if you want to learn flap usage. It's a good plane without them and exceptional with them. Take off without ord and 50-75% fuel depending on how far you're going. Flaps engage one notch every 25 mph starting at 250 mph.

The Ki-84 is also a good, flap-dependent bird to learn with.

I agree with everything you said with the exception of the Spit.

I use to use my flaps a lot on the Spit (1 notch). The quicker I could get around on my target ... the quicker it died, and when flying a Spit V ... you want to kill quickly and move on to attack or evade the next attacker.

BiPoLaR · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2008, 03:00:14 PM »

yes flaps are important...just as much as the wing when in a fight

SgtPappy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 14, 2008, 03:03:16 PM »

Well the Spit only has 1 notch.

Skyrock,
And the P-51 is great at turning, yes at high sped. Arguably, nothing turns better above 300 mph. But where most turn fights occur, especially figths with participants who are still learning, the P-51's not going to do much at all in the turn fight.

SkyRock · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2008, 03:07:27 PM »

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Originally posted by BaldEagl
You almost never need flaps in a Spit.

Where do these fellas come up with this nonsense? Why give advice when you do not have a clue?

dedalos · « **Reply #21 on:** January 14, 2008, 03:17:15 PM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
Where do these fellas come up with this nonsense? Why give advice when you do not have a clue?

Bahahhahaha, you beat me to it. Spit with no flaps will get spanked by almost everything (given the pilot is not one of the experts above

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Go to the TA and ask one of the trainers. At list they know what they are talking about and they can show you how to do it

Banshee7 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 14, 2008, 04:05:03 PM »

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Originally posted by SgtPappy
Skyrock,
And the P-51 is great at turning, yes at high sped. Arguably, nothing turns better above 300 mph. But where most turn fights occur, especially figths with participants who are still learning, the P-51's not going to do much at all in the turn fight.

Tell that to all the Niki's and LAs ive killed turn fighting my Pony

stifor187 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 14, 2008, 04:15:26 PM »

Thank you for all the advice.

much better than i hoped for with such a noob question.

Banshee7 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2008, 04:34:17 PM »

We all had to start somewhere:)

#S#

Banshee7

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2008, 05:12:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Banshee7
Tell that to all the Niki's and LAs ive killed turn fighting my Pony

If a N1K2 was out turned at medium to slow speeds by a P-51, then you ran into what was probably one of the crappiest players ever to take control of a N1K2 in game.

ack-ack

Shuffler · « **Reply #26 on:** January 14, 2008, 05:30:57 PM »

I started in a Mustang then went to the Corsair then to the 38. All of them my RL favorite aircraft.

Banshee7 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 14, 2008, 05:37:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
If a N1K2 was out turned at medium to slow speeds by a P-51, then you ran into what was probably one of the crappiest players ever to take control of a N1K2 in game.

ack-ack

It was tuk151 (same sortie i owned MaX's Typhoon:D )

#S#

Banshee7

Banshee7 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2008, 05:37:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Shuffler
I started in a Mustang then went to the Corsair then to the 38. All of them my RL favorite aircraft.

Same here...those are my 3 main planes and my fav's.

#S#

Banshee7

Urthona · « **Reply #29 on:** January 14, 2008, 05:54:17 PM »

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Originally posted by BaldEagl
You almost never need flaps in a Spit.

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Originally posted by SkyRock
Where do these fellas come up with this nonsense? Why give advice when you do not have a clue?

FYI: From Soda's Aircraft Evaluations writeup on the Spit XVI

"Donft use flaps, they are really only for landing and the drag they produce is a real disadvantage. "

Personally, I use flaps as needed when I fly the Spit, but I rarely fly the Spit XVI