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Offline SgtPappy

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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2008, 10:12:27 PM »
True, Kev, there were many more L.III's.

And since they do seem to perform like IX's at low alts and like the V at higher alts, and a little worse, I assume, at yet higher alts, it does seem to add more colour to the Spitfire line.

I still wonder, though, why it seems so slow and it only climbs over 4000 fpm under 6000' with the Merlin 55M, while the Merlin 45M allowed the Spitfire LF.V to climb over 4000 fpm till 8,800'.

Why'd they stick a Merlin 55M if the 45M had much better performance? Is the weight increase just THAT bad? OR are the commonly published results just wrong/misleading?
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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2008, 12:02:50 AM »
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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2008, 02:37:58 PM »
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Originally posted by SgtPappy
True, Kev, there were many more L.III's.

And since they do seem to perform like IX's at low alts and like the V at higher alts, and a little worse, I assume, at yet higher alts, it does seem to add more colour to the Spitfire line.

I still wonder, though, why it seems so slow and it only climbs over 4000 fpm under 6000' with the Merlin 55M, while the Merlin 45M allowed the Spitfire LF.V to climb over 4000 fpm till 8,800'.

Why'd they stick a Merlin 55M if the 45M had much better performance? Is the weight increase just THAT bad? OR are the commonly published results just wrong/misleading?



Maybe based on a clipped L III?
The majority of the pics you can find of L III's show them clipped, this reduces climb by at least 300fpm.

Dan should be able to shed to light on it, over to you Mr Guppy :) .

Correcting my earlier post - L IIc was of course the Merlin 32 not 55M.

i.e. First batch produced with Merlin 46, all remaining with Merlin 32, then all the first batch refitted with the Merlin 32.
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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2008, 04:38:43 PM »
Really? I've only seen two pics of clipped-wing L.III's. Most that I find on any search engine is the 36' 10" wingspan version.

Yes, Guppy, let's have a see.
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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2008, 06:15:08 PM »
well, there r like 24 different models of spits, i bet they had like about another 50 made to like go underwater >.
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2008, 08:57:25 PM »
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Really? I've only seen two pics of clipped-wing L.III's. Most that I find on any search engine is the 36' 10" wingspan version.

Yes, Guppy, let's have a see.


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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2008, 10:09:09 PM »
No worries, Gupp, take your time.

Meanwhile, I'll be coming up with more reasons for Seafire III's to be added.
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2008, 10:39:27 PM »
EARTH TO EVERYONE!!!

Spits are already dweeb rides...why add more??? :noid

Add some more American A/C such as the 51C or the Super-Strafer 38

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« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2008, 11:37:41 PM »
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EARTH TO EVERYONE!!!

Spits are already dweeb rides...why add more??? :noid

Add some more American A/C such as the 51C or the Super-Strafer 38

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There was no super strafer 38 and we have the 51B/C :)
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« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2008, 11:38:41 PM »
ID'd as IIcs not IIIs.  I think these were the images Kev was referring to.

4 blade props, late IIcs I think





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« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2008, 02:22:25 AM »
I'm not much of spitdweeb but I like having good fight in one now and then

my vote: yes :aok
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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2008, 07:07:50 AM »
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Originally posted by Banshee7
EARTH TO EVERYONE!!!

Spits are already dweeb rides...why add more??? :noid

Add some more American A/C such as the 51C or the Super-Strafer 38

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« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2008, 08:18:33 AM »
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There was no super strafer 38 and we have the 51B/C :)


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« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2008, 01:42:30 PM »
Thanks Bronk.

Banshee,
If you don't like the plane say so. If there the Spitfire's a dweeb ride, pretty much everyone in the game is a dweeb because someone's always going to say there's another plane harder to fly. And why the hell whould everyone want to just go to some other plane that's harder to fly? "cuz we're manly and thus cannot afford to let go of our egos! RAWWR!"

Since you didn't even realize we had a P-51B/C, you shouldn't even be talking. And don't say that P-51C's were the one's with the Malcolm hoods... P-51C's are designated as such because of where they were built.

Also, clearly, just because you see Mk.IX/VIII/XVI flying around doesn't mean all the Spits are 'dweeby' by your defenition. Try flying the Spitfire Ia/V against the horde and tell me how amazingly easy that is. Shows how much you know about the Spitfire; the Seafire III is most closely connected to the Mk.V.
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« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2008, 08:27:33 PM »
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There was no super strafer 38


It actually was but my understanding is that it was only produces AFTER  WW2:(

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