Author Topic: Russian bombers 'buzzed' US aircraft carrier (Read 3721 times)

Bronk · « **Reply #60 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:08:49 PM »

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Originally posted by ZetaNine
is that an ethnic slur, sir? I happen to be Italian American and I am offended by that. please govern yourself accordingly.

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My Rant: Political Correctness

REP0MAN · « **Reply #61 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:12:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk

ZetaNine · « **Reply #62 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:12:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk

congrats on getting it.

by the way...I'm not italian either.

Angrist · « **Reply #63 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:14:02 PM »

^^:rofl

Boroda · « **Reply #64 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:19:23 PM »

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Originally posted by ZetaNine
Korean Air Lines Flight 007 anyone?

Can't you see a certain difference between shooting down a spy-plane that invaded our airspace flying over restricted military areas and blowing up an airliner in international airspace just because it went inside a SAM fire-range of a US vessel?...

ZetaNine · « **Reply #65 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:20:33 PM »

oh the humanity.....

psss.... I know it was #'d 007...... but that doesn't make it a spy plane.

Boroda · « **Reply #66 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:27:01 PM »

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Originally posted by ZetaNine
oh the humanity.....

psss.... I know it was #'d 007...... but that doesn't make it a spy plane.

I advise you to read something on that sad event.

C(Sea)Bass · « **Reply #67 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:29:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Can't you see a certain difference between shooting down a spy-plane that invaded our airspace flying over restricted military areas and blowing up an airliner in international airspace just because it went inside a SAM fire-range of a US vessel?...

ahhh yes, the spy plane version of the 747, that was sold to Korean Airlines.

ZetaNine · « **Reply #68 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:30:11 PM »

I'd be more than interested to..... any links?

KgB · « **Reply #69 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:39:22 PM »

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Originally posted by ZetaNine
I think we stopped doing that 20 or 30 years ago........this stuff is on putin.

so everyone here is content to do nothing? Russian planes...Iranian boats....

complacency is more dangerous. I wonder what you'll say when 2500 american sailors are killed if and when we continue to stand down....whether from a boat, a plane, or a silkworm missile.

Well......may be you see Russian planes because you close to Russian territory,and Iranian boats because you too close to Iran?

C(Sea)Bass · « **Reply #70 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:40:46 PM »

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I'd be more than interested to..... any links?

This is very brief and doesn't men tion alot of things but is about as un-biased as i could find quickly.

http://aeroweb.lucia.it/rap/RAFAQ/KAL007.html

Short description: KAL 007 was a 747 flying from JFK to Korea with a stop at Anchorage. Due to pilot error it was about 135 miles off course flying past Russian airspace, meaning it either got very close to Russian Airspace or violated it briefly. An American RC135 recon plane had been in the area around the same time to watch missle tests that never ended up happening. The Russians scrambled fighters to intercept the plane, which they beleived was an RC135, but was really KAL 007.

The rest is really were controversy starts.

Russians say the aircraft was IDed as military, while others say it was IDed as civillian. Either way they fired missles, and the aircraft slowly spiraled into the sea. There were no survivors.

also:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19830901-0

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #71 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:43:54 PM »

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"on ascension day we land in red square" atta boy mr rust and he is a hero of mine as well.

It would have been a lot funnier if he landed on the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa or the seige of Moscow.

ack-ack

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #72 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:50:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
It seems to me that its you guys who need to get some real spirits. Drinking vodka on the rocks is on of the most stupid things I can imagine

Needless to say that your navy has a great history of completely failing air defense when under real attack and shooting down harmless passenger airliners just because someone got scared to death and crapped his pants. Should I elaborate?

Why not elaborate on the Soviet Union's downing of two airliners in 1978 and 1983? Sounds like some little Ruskie crapped his pants back then too or had an intense hatred of KAL for losing his luggage.

Korean Air Lines Flight 902 (KAL902, KE902) shot down by Soviet fighters on April 20, 1978 near Murmansk. Forced to crash land on a frozen lake, two passengers killed.

Korean Air Lines Flight 007 (KAL 700) shot down by Soviet jet interceptors on September 1, 1983 just west of Sakhalin island. 269 passengers and crew, including US congressman Lawrence McDonald, were aboard KAL 007; there were no survivors.

ack-ack

Boroda · « **Reply #73 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:52:15 PM »

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It would have been a lot funnier if he landed on the anniversary of Operation Barbarossa or the seige of Moscow.

It couldn't be any funnier. He landed on an Aircraft Defense Corps Day.

KgB · « **Reply #74 on:** February 12, 2008, 06:57:47 PM »

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Originally posted by heythere
"on ascension day we land in red square" atta boy mr rust and he is a hero of mine as well.

1989, Rust stabbed a female co-worker who rejected him.
2001: Mathias Rust is convicted for stealing a cashmere pullover.
2004: Convicted of fraud, has to pay € 1,500 for stolen goods.
A true hero.