Author Topic: Oh my god the pony is awful! (Read 9321 times)

swareiam · « **Reply #60 on:** February 20, 2008, 10:10:37 AM »

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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I'm sorry but I've been killed three times recently by AKDG. In each and every instance, he ran away from me, then came back and picked me while I was engaged with 2-3 other enemy's.

I could tell you how to do that, and in fact, I just did.

[EDIT] Urchin vs. AKDG? No contest. Urchin.

Eagle and Others,

You seem to forget the Mustang is a 11,000 lb. aircraft. Thrust to weight ratio is only good in this aircraft when moving fast or "RUNNING AWAY", so to speak. The honest truth is that you are crazy for trying to turn and burn in this ride. As soon as you get slow there are 11,000 lbs. that say you're not going anywhere fast chum. AKDG has just taken advantage of the best flight characterists of the aircraft itself. Go ahead, up in a pony, 50% fuel, find a furball, dump flaps and make your first turn at a 60 degree angle or better. You just went from 350 knot to 200 knots or less in just a few seconds. This at low alt means you dead. Anything else that can turn is eating your lunch.

Don't blame the man for figuring that out...

Cheers:aok

moot · « **Reply #61 on:** February 20, 2008, 01:11:02 PM »

It's really not that bad. I recently dueled it against some good sticks in K4s, and it held its own very well.

Bosco123 · « **Reply #62 on:** February 20, 2008, 05:00:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Larry
Check again kid. Two kills and no deaths in Jan., but hat was the month I was dweebing it out in the tempest and dora. In Dec. I have 106 kills with 19 deaths. Thats a 5.68 K/D I would say it does look good. Looks like Im a better ninja then you!

Ok only checked lasy month.

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Originally posted by Larry
I bet his only undr standing of the A8 is its a good HO plane. When I think of a 190 pilot I think of someone like wilbuz.

Next thing is that I never HO so get that out of your mind quick.

Larry · « **Reply #63 on:** February 20, 2008, 06:25:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Bosco123
Next thing is that I never HO so get that out of your mind quick.

Yea what ever you say.

Bosco123 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 20, 2008, 06:26:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Larry
Yea what ever you say.

ROLFLMAO!!:rofl

Urchin · « **Reply #65 on:** February 20, 2008, 06:48:50 PM »

Thread wasn't really about my cartoon flying skills (or lack thereof), but rather about the P-51.

Since I have never flown a real P-51, all I have to go by is the old FM. The old Pony would fly a wide variety of geometric shapes around the new one, in my opinion.

I understand that "stall fighting" the Pony isn't the "right" way to fly it... but I am more curious about the HUGE change in the way it flies, not with how it "should" be flown.

Sketch - no harm no foul. I certainly did not take anything you said personally.

Spatula · « **Reply #66 on:** February 20, 2008, 07:39:14 PM »

When did you last fly the pony Urchin?

I remember the pony of AH 1 which was totally wicked! Then, IIRC, the drag model changes for flaps hit the pony, and gave the hogs a new lease of life. I dont pretend to know how either of them fly in real life and they compare relative to each other - i dont think many here do...

moot · « **Reply #67 on:** February 20, 2008, 10:02:46 PM »

Just an off the wall observation..
Was the 51D historicaly shown to out maneuver the 47s we have, more than the 51D we have does? The 190D9 was supposed to historicaly (IIRC) be about equal in maneuverability to the 51D.
That could make our 51D more true to life.

Widewing · « **Reply #68 on:** February 20, 2008, 11:01:20 PM »

This is how the RAF rated them for turn radius.. From Mike Williams' and Neil Sterling's site.

For acceleration....

Speed and climb....

My regards,

Widewing

moot · « **Reply #69 on:** February 21, 2008, 01:13:51 AM »

I guess not.. Great charts Widewing, thanks for sharing them.

lyric1 · « **Reply #70 on:** February 21, 2008, 08:13:26 AM »

I always find it interesting the discussion of who is the best P51d pilot. So I am going to throw a name in that seems to miss this type of debate & goes unnoticed & that is a squad mate Challenge. Most of every one of the top names talked about in other threads Challenge has for the most part beat them all on numerous occasions regardless of what they are flying. At one point & this is going back some months now & may not be correct on my part he had never been shot down by another d pony while he was in a one on one situation. If I am wrong then that is me & not Challenge, any way decided to throw his name in the mix.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #71 on:** February 21, 2008, 12:40:19 PM »

Who's Challenge?

ack-ack

Sketch · « **Reply #72 on:** February 21, 2008, 02:11:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Who's Challenge?

ack-ack

Urchin's shade account....

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #73 on:** February 21, 2008, 04:04:00 PM »

Vati used to be a good 51 stick.

Surprised Demon hasnt been mentioned.

Hoffman · « **Reply #74 on:** February 21, 2008, 11:33:34 PM »

*Looks at past 20 films...* Nope The P-51 doesn't suck. When flown right she outmaneuvers my 109-K4 and makes me look and feel like an idiot. I ain't the best 109 pilot in the world but I know I ain't the worst. When flown by a novice, I can beat a Pony down with one elevator and half a wing missing. (... probably...)

*Looks at holes all over 109...* No, those .50 cals are very painful thank you very much. Anyone who says that their .50's aren't hurting have their convergence set wrong, your only getting 1 or 2 guns actually hitting the target. When 4, or all 6 get lead into the target it'll disintigrate very rapidly, as many of my 109's have proven.

*Thinks for a minute...*

Perk the Pony!:D