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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2008, 02:51:20 PM »
Engines in AH are artificially limited to unrealistic low durations of WEP because it would be grossly abused if we could run engines like in reality.

Il-2's engines are so grossly mismodeled as fragile as to be an absurd joke.  To see Il-2 players tout this as realistic just reveals their lack of knowledge.  Both AH and Il-2 use a gamey mechanism to control player abuse of engine maintainance schedules.  Il-2's is signficantly more gamey.
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2008, 03:09:34 PM »
Some of those are definitely from the freeloaders. What they think or say has never mattered to anyone but themselves.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2008, 03:13:13 PM »
I've flown every online flight sim,and most every combat flightsim made.AH appeals to a lotta people,and right now there is nothing better available imho.To me the idea is to have fun,and AH accomplishes that well.Could it be better?,sure,and I think they doing ok bringing along improvements as needed.My two cents worth.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2008, 03:15:16 PM »
Most of those comments read like squeakers.  "Tempests in every room" ?  That's a definite H2Her...

but whatever, to each his own...

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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2008, 03:16:27 PM »
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Offline trax1

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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2008, 03:35:22 PM »
Yeah alot of that sounded like sour grapes.
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2008, 03:51:44 PM »
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To me the idea is to have fun,and AH accomplishes that well.


This man deserves a cookie!!!! :)

Most of what I read seemed to be written by folks that were a truck load of clues short of the answer. Is AH perfect? No, but, it is capable of providing tons more fun than any of its competitors.

In addition, no one has to go out an pay to find out if AH is worth playing. Try it for 2 weeks, if you don't like it...go do something else. :)
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2008, 03:53:45 PM »
I've tried Warbirds, Fighter Ace, Target Ware, MS Combat flight sim,  IL2, Fighter Squadron, Pacific fighters, Battlestations Midway, Attack on Pearl Harbor, and a few I've forgotten since my grandson introduced me to computer gaming a little more than three years ago. Before then I viewed a computer as a tool to conduct business.

If all of these other games are so much better than AH, as the above mentioned posts would attempt to lead one to believe, why am I still playing AH while the other games gather dust in some forgotten corner.

But everybody here already knows the answer to that question. AH  rocks, it might not have the latest eye candy, but it was designed to be playable to an absolute gamer noob such as myself. Yet its complicated enough to keep my interest after I've managed to master the relatively easy stuff.
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2008, 04:01:05 PM »
Blah IL2 all the planes fly alike.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2008, 04:06:50 PM »
I have not played il-2, but I have worked on, and flow some of the aircraft in the game and I'd say AH is much more gamey when it comes to engines and durability. In real life the engines on a B-17G seldom made it to 100 hours before needing a complete rebuild. It was very easy to just crank up the turbo boost and try to compensate for an overloaded plane. Most equipment on all sides was abused but things like water or methanol actually run out.

In AH all you have to do is let the engine cool off and "Poof" the water tank in your plane is full again.

Another real life example would be shock cooling. When diving from high altitude and your throttle at idle, you'd have to be ducking engine parts on the way down.

AH is a game, and it's a great one. It has a large player base and it caters to wide range of skills. I don't think it goes to the Nth degree to capture all the details of actually (and accurately) flying these planes. But, it does a great job for the vast majority of details that matter to keeping us all happy and playing.


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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2008, 04:13:07 PM »
Ahh lahk eet ahlaht... ah flah wit mah dahkta peppa en eet is fun.
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2008, 04:13:45 PM »
Yeah like Irondog said, AH is a game you play because its a fun flight sim, the complaints I saw on those post were all about how AH is modeled realistic enough, but I don't play AH because I'm looking for a game thats as close to realistic flight as I can get, if thats what I wanted I'd be flying FSX all the time.  Me and I'm sure the rest of you guys play it because we find it fun, not because were looking for the most realistic flight sim we can find.
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2008, 04:25:45 PM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
Engines in AH are artificially limited to unrealistic low durations of WEP because it would be grossly abused if we could run engines like in reality.




I wish it were more like reality.  Pull the plug and WEP your yourself crazy.  Those who do not monitor the engine instruments get a rude surprise in the form of a stopped propellor.
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That would add more realism to the game and stop any WEP-a-holics at the same time.
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2008, 04:41:35 PM »
It didn't work that way in real life. In real life it meant the engine had to be overhauled after the plane landed. In this game you get a "new" plane every next sortie. You could run WEP for over an hours and get a totally unfair advantage.

It's much better to limit WEP.


As for water etc, often there was more water than just for 5 minutes' use, and many planes don't HAVE additive WEP, they just run at higher boost and RPM. It's still WEP but there's no additive.


Most often WEP is limited by engine heat, NOT the additives onboard. Also, with fuel burn increased 2x in the MAs, how would that affect WEP? If you use an additive, does it run out 2x as fast? Does that mean one plane gets 5 mins standard but the water injection only gets (say) 2.5 minutes?


Again, totally unfair advantage.


And no, making a dive wouldn't break chunks off your engine :rolleyes:

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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2008, 05:24:14 PM »
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In real life the engines on a B-17G seldom made it to 100 hours before needing a complete rebuild.



BTW, can't wait for the next update!


That's why we land after an hour or 2, depending on objective, and let the invisible professionals on the ground rebuild our engines and fix the the leaks.

This might be the wrong place to post this, but an improvement might be to not have all planes or GV's available in unlimited numbers as soon as 1 hanger pops.

The other games I've played do not have the ability to keep players loyal to the game like AH.  I've been in for several years and still learning and enjoying the company around me.
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