Author Topic: Who says Illegals are needed???? (Read 1187 times)

john9001 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:36:54 AM »

arizona law,
title 23-labor
chapter 2
article 2
23-212

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/23/00212.htm&Title=23&DocType=ARS

there is an answer.

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:44:07 AM »

There is a simple way to stop the criminals.. both the ones who cross illegally and the criminals who hire them.

and.. as moot says.. there are millions of good, talented people waiting to become legal citizens.

as for picking fruit? are you guys really that young that you think illegals were the only way it was ever done? the brasero program bussed brasero workers.. only workers.. no kids. and the farmers put them up on the land.. no schools no nothing.. they were housed and fed by the farmer and at the end of a few months season they were bussed back with a big fat paycheck.

My girfriend is a legal citizen of mexican decent. she hates illegals.. she flys an American flag.. she curses people who fly a mexican one here.

If you are sympathetic to illegals.. she, and her friends and family think you are an idiot and unamerican.

lazs

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:46:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Regular
Please do not turn the deaths of helpless kids into a political rant.

What makes this thread so special?

JBA · « **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:55:19 AM »

Here in Mass a 70 year old was run down by a brazilin illegal, whom fled the scene because that’s right she was illegal. They have caught her since, yet to see if she will be deported. But I'm sure Kennedy and the ACLU will defend her "rights"

P.S. Our Boston city council voted on a statement stating that illegal have a "right" to sneak into the US.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:57:28 AM »

Dont know how its been wroking in those fruit picking areas. But if you ask businesses up here who hire illegals. Most of them will tell you that the days of them working "cheap" are long gone.

"Cheaper" Yes. but only slightly

JBA · « **Reply #35 on:** February 23, 2008, 10:58:27 AM »

This came out of texas, Courpus Christi

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SteveBailey · « **Reply #36 on:** February 23, 2008, 11:59:03 AM »

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Originally posted by crockett
So what was the "straw man" comment about that wasn't an insualt?

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Straw man isn't an insult crockett, it refers to "straw man argument"

DYNAMITE · « **Reply #37 on:** February 23, 2008, 12:28:13 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
If you have the time, watch these links from Penn and Teller's Bullchit. Always liked this episode.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r9ffO9mLlEo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UnBN0trSE3c&feature=related

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***** brilliant

crockett · « **Reply #38 on:** February 23, 2008, 12:55:25 PM »

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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Straw man isn't an insult crockett, it refers to "straw man argument"

Well I thought you were referring to the "straw man" from Alice in Wonderland.. hence the brain commit.

john9001 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 23, 2008, 01:44:24 PM »

that is not Alice in Wonderland, it is Wizard of Oz.

(kids today are sooo dumb).

SteveBailey · « **Reply #40 on:** February 23, 2008, 02:08:41 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
Well I thought you were referring to the "straw man" from Alice in Wonderland.. hence the brain commit.

Ahahahaha! Well that went from insulting to funny.

Sings: If I only had a brain!

crockett · « **Reply #41 on:** February 23, 2008, 02:10:51 PM »

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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Ahahahaha! Well that went from insulting to funny.

Sings: If I only had a brain!

lol yea that's why I came up with that comment I thought I was being witty.

AquaShrimp · « **Reply #42 on:** February 23, 2008, 03:13:17 PM »

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Originally posted by crockett
Just because some are bad don't mean they all are. granted they are here illegally of course. You want to start picking the oranges and planting the feilds doing the laundry at hotels .. be my guest..

SteveBailey Americans were doing those jobs back when labor paid $2.75 an hour. How many Americans are going to pick fruit all day in the sun for even $10/ hour? I think the illegals get about 7 to do it.

There have been machines designed to pick grapes, cherries, and all other sorts of fruit. It wouldn't be impossible to design a machine to pick oranges.

Besides, poor people don't live very good lives. You think we are doing Mexicans a favor by paying them minimum wages and having them live in our slums where our own anti-socials lurk?

crockett · « **Reply #43 on:** February 23, 2008, 03:32:24 PM »

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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
There have been machines designed to pick grapes, cherries, and all other sorts of fruit. It wouldn't be impossible to design a machine to pick oranges.

Besides, poor people don't live very good lives. You think we are doing Mexicans a favor by paying them minimum wages and having them live in our slums where our own anti-socials lurk?

It seems they go through hell to get here, to have that opportunity to work at minimum wage and live in our slums. You should go buy this month's issue of National Geographic. There is a article where they followed some illegals and what they go through to get here.

Oh and btw the bulk of them aren't just Mexicans there are just as many Guatemalans, Hondurans and Salvadorans.

btw did you watch the vids cav58d posted?

john9001 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 23, 2008, 04:03:46 PM »

maybe National Geographic should do a article on what legal immigrants go through to live in the USA.