Originally posted by Rich46yo
The onus was on you. It was you who first made statements about "all the Democracies that turned into fascist states. It was you who called American Policeman the "SS".
It was??
I DID??
LOL I suggest you scroll back
On point 1
Though you for some reason seem to think I did.
I never said anything of the sort. Let alone "first made those statements."
And I defy you to show where I did in any thread.
On point 2 I never called the police SS units
Since when does the police monitor phone traffic outside the USA?
I was talking of a secret police force that probably exists.
Why not?
If we have "secret courts. What makes us beleive we dont have a secret police force?
Probably part of the Dept of Homeland Security.
Course we the general public wouldnt know about that because its secret.
Kinda ruins the whole point of having something secret if everyone knows about it.
The points I did make were that such laws tend to be expended to include.
In this case it could very well at some point be expanded to include the gerneral polulace,. For any nuymber of reasons.
What I did say is that security types tend to be all for gettign more power and control for themselves. While taking away or infringing on the rights of the people.
And what I will say now is the more power given to a security force. the more they tend to be corrupted by it and abuse it.
And as the saying goes. Absolute power currupts absolutely.
There are better ways of doig it then with "secret" Courts.
Who oversee's these secret courts and secret forces besides other equally secret entities?
And isnt this the job of the CIA anyway?
Set aside a non secret court made up of publically known people to whom warrants can be petitioned for on short notice.
Have that court monitored by other judges and members of congress all the names of which should all be publically known.
I agree smoe things must be done in secrecy.
but nothing should be so secret that nobody knows who is responcable for what,when and where except for other secret people that nobody knows about.
And I am not for giving these forces all the power they want.
Bcause life experience has taught me that be it a little rinky dink security firm guarding a business or the (yes) police, Or the government.
the more they tend to want to take.
And it becomes a never ending hunger for power and control
