Author Topic: Police taking DNA samples at traffic stops (Read 1471 times)

Eagler · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2008, 03:22:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Fulmar
Obviously 1984 is his ideal society!

it is?
sorry for not being as paranoid as some of you LOL

Chairboy · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2008, 03:23:44 PM »

So... no answer then, Eagler?

Eagler · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2008, 03:34:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
So... no answer then, Eagler?

about what? you wanting to put a camera in my house?

are you comparing a device that would stop you from driving drunk on PUBLIC roads to a camera in my PRIVATE home?

Chairboy · « **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2008, 04:13:41 PM »

So the bill of rights describes rights we have when we're at home, but nowhere else? Plus, you still seem to be pretty sanguine about the casual DNA testing, even though DNA contains the most accurate long term medical history of your family possible, with every hereditary trait sitting there just waiting to be read.

Gunthr · « **Reply #49 on:** February 24, 2008, 04:53:56 PM »

I think these routine DNA swabs in Daytona are ill advised. I agree that nobody should allow anybody to officially take your DNA absent a warrant because your DNA will certainly go into a database. And on a traffic stop there is always the question of coercion. I think that any of these consent search and seizures that result in criminal charges will be vigorously challenged.

RTR · « **Reply #50 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:10:06 PM »

I would suspect that giving a DNA sample (in reference to the topic) is on a strictly voluntary status, with no repercussions for refusal. IE it becomes a personal choice dictated by your beliefs.

That being said, anybody who would willingly give up ANY of thier freedoms so hardly won by thier Fathers, Grandfathers et-al, should surely have thier heads examined.

RTR

VonMessa · « **Reply #51 on:** February 25, 2008, 03:56:56 AM »

Well, in that case, I believe......NO. Unless you feel like pulling a sample from my next bowel movement.

Besides, I am anything but clean cut.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 25, 2008, 04:56:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
no, just don't want to make you jealous

Jackal
Do you drive drunk often?

No. I also don`t have a habit of bending over every time someone suggests it.
I certainly don`t have a habit of taking personal freedom , rights and invasion of privacy lightly.

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Don't have the change for a cab or too lazy to walk after drinking?

The first problem with that would be that if you were looking for a cab around here you would be on something much more powerful than spirits.

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Why would you be against something that would stop you from possibily killing an innocent when you would not be in the position to make the call yourself?

Why not just turn your vehicles all in to the government to begin with? Geee...look at all the accidents it would prevent. Look at the lives it would save.
Why not just bend over and freely give all rights and decision making up on a personal level? Why not let the government make all of our decisions for us? I mean after all, they do know what`s best for ya......right?

Vulcan · « **Reply #53 on:** February 25, 2008, 05:24:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
about what? you wanting to put a camera in my house?

are you comparing a device that would stop you from driving drunk on PUBLIC roads to a camera in my PRIVATE home?

What are the crime rates for private homes versus public roads? I'm guessing the level of crime committed in private homes is not negligible.

I'm with chairboy on this. DNS traits are just waiting to be used for profiling. First it's taking DNA to eliminate you. Pretty soon its turned around on you to become analysis of your potential behaviour. The question you have to ask yourself is do you want to be judged on your potential behaviour traits or your actual behaviour.

SIG220 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 25, 2008, 06:10:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Airscrew
Or the NAACP, but then there is basketball... so NCAA could have a dog in this fight....

Hi Myelo

Sorry, my brain sometimes scrambles acronyms up inside. My electrical signals misfire on occasion also, and I type incorrect stuff.

This never seemed to happen when I was younger.

lazs2 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 26, 2008, 08:28:38 AM »

whats a cab?

lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 26, 2008, 08:32:33 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
whats a cab?

lazs

Not sure, but I believe it is some kind of files on the Windows system.
I`m not going to look for them though.
I`m too lazy and I don`t know how much it will cost. I don`t have any change anyway. Whatever it is, it needs to be turned over to the government. They will know what to do with it.