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Offline Marshal

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The Urine Test
« on: February 29, 2008, 01:06:08 AM »
I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB. SO I AGREE 100%
 Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay
 my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order
 to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which
 I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my
 taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to
 pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their A**, doing drugs, while I work.
    Can you imagine how much money the states would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check ?!!
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Offline Angus

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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 02:38:07 AM »
I recall, that while worked in food industry (dairy), this was mandatory for getting the job.
(Not because of drugs though, more like disease, - but it was 23 years ago...)
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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 05:37:37 AM »
dunno how much  they would save, but i'd make it a point to buy stock in the company with the most successful masking formula.
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 05:39:30 AM »
Masking formula is just that, it comes up in urine tests as a masking agent.  That's as good as a positive on a whiz-quiz.  Sort of defeats the purpose yes?
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 05:40:19 AM »
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Originally posted by Marshal
I HAVE TO PASS A URINE TEST FOR MY JOB. SO I AGREE 100%
 Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay
 my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order
 to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which
 I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my
 taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to
 pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their A**, doing drugs, while I work.
    Can you imagine how much money the states would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check ?!!


Good point!
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Offline JB88

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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 05:45:07 AM »
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Masking formula is just that, it comes up in urine tests as a masking agent.  That's as good as a positive on a whiz-quiz.  Sort of defeats the purpose yes?


dunno.  never done it...but i know people who swear by something or other.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 05:56:01 AM »
When I worked at Office Depot whenever a urine test came pack indeterminate it meant a masking agent was involved and the person wasn't hired.  Then again, I knew a couple of co-workers who did nothing to hide their recreational activities and their tests came back as being clear.  So who knows.
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2008, 06:10:49 AM »
I don't agree with random tests. I consider it an infringment of my rights.  I'm innocent, prove me guilty.
 Do you have cause to ask me for a pee in a bottle? No? Then don't.

The urine test looks for past use. Not present impairment. My smoking a joint over the weekend on my personal free time is none of your concern.
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 06:29:44 AM »
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I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their A**, doing drugs, while I work.




What i heard "now im old enough to work and they are making me take a drug test, and now i cant do any of my favorite drugs, now im over worked and under apreciated, i think now ill voice my opinions on people because the government takes my money away just like everyone else. and furthermore them giving it away to other people real pisses me off."


Right, fully understandable..your not alone.
everyone grows up, and some of us take it like sugar, others..like lemons..very..very sour.

And on the subject, do i think someone collecting disability or food/cash aid from the government or local services should be drug tested? a b s o l u t e l y
Without a doubt.
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2008, 06:45:24 AM »
yep, you'd think with the fascination the gov has shown for pro baseball and their use of "illegal" drugs, the least they could do is be consistent.

sounds like a great way to real in the hand outs .. of course JJ and the ACLU would be jumping up and down ...
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2008, 07:03:46 AM »
Would most likely end up wasting far more money on the tests, than would be saved by the few who are stupid enough to get caught.
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« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2008, 08:48:38 AM »
The only urine or blood test I will be taking willingly will be for my Dr.
Nothing to hide, but certainly nothing to gain.
I also will not be willingly give up a DNA sample.
I will not willingly be getting a tracking device implant or ID numbers tattooed on my forehead.
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« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2008, 08:53:54 AM »
Jackal1, I'll save Eagler the time:  If you don't want a tracker implant and barcode on your forehead for easy camera identification, then obviously you have something to hide.  

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BTW, 9/11.
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« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2008, 09:01:34 AM »
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The only urine or blood test I will be taking willingly will be for my Dr.
Nothing to hide, but certainly nothing to gain.
 

You do realize that most employers require a pre-employment drug screening, right?

Of course I'm sure that if you refuse the test and point out the fact that it's an infringement of your civil liberties they'll hire you on the spot.

Welcome to the new world.  Big Brother is watching.
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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2008, 09:07:19 AM »
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You do realize that most employers require a pre-employment drug screening, right?



Not my problem.


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Of course I'm sure that if you refuse the test and point out the fact that it's an infringement of your civil liberties they'll hire you on the spot.


I think you just might be surprised how many employers will bypass this little part of the hiring process if you protest it in the right way.
Of course you have to have the nads to do it. Most don`t and that is what is depended on.

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Welcome to the new world.  Big Brother is watching.


Big Brother is near sighted. :)
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